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[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I am unfamiliar with Matrix and just read their website, but I’m still kind of confused as to the importance of a new release sub-version to this general technology community. This may be a stupid question, but does matrix provide infrastructure for the fediverse or something?

Edit: thanks for all the informative replies. I understand perfectly now, but I’m still confused as to why this was posted here. I’ve never seen software release notes posted before, so i don’t get why this is important enough to be here with such a high upvote percentage. Anyone have any insights on that to help my stupid brain make sense of this?

[–] kpw@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No it doesn't. It's basically a bloated and more advertised version of XMPP by some venture capital funded startup. Sadly, it doesn't build on existing internet standards like XMPP at all, so there's no real compatibility.

[–] nakal@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

XMPP needs a connected network socket which is pretty bad in a time of mobile services. The 90s are over.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Clients can tell the server to only send important traffic (=when new notifying messages are incoming) before going to sleep so it doesn't use any radio now. Fast reconnects are also possible now, so we can wake up only when a push notification arrives. The only thing stuck in the 90s is your knowledge about XMPP.

[–] nakal@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know enough about XMPP or earlier called Jabber to not to run it anymore, after years of self-hosting Prosody.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Well, apparently you don't since you're spreading outdated myths.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] limitedduck@awful.systems 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Notably missing from the comparison list is any mention of video or screen sharing, or anything to do specifically with games. These are Discord's unique strengths at the moment and they have been for a long time. With that in mind, Matrix is a "good alternative" to Discord in the sense that most other desktop VoIP or chat apps are since Discord users aren't using it for the privacy and openness aspects and want the Discord specific features and ease of use.

Don't get me wrong, I wish I could fully replace Discord with the Matrix instance I currently self-host, but there are things Discord just does better than every other app including having a bunch of features that range from meh to pretty good all in one package.

[–] Ebsku@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Matrix aims to be a protocol for mostly real-time things like chat and voice/video calls.

It has a data structure called rooms (think: chat rooms) that are spread out across multiple servers and the servers synchronize the content between each other. While ActivityPub (what most of Fediverse uses) is much simpler and just list posts adding API for interactions. Matrix aim to be a fabric to build decentralized alternatives of Discord, Zoom, WhatsApp, Google Classroom, Jamboard, Google Docs, etc.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] gencha@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

I'm waiting on those reactions :D