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As per title, Help me choose a browser for android I have non rooted device. After all the researches I found best for me would be 1: Mull but with Some way for knowing which site have saved any data on my device (Maybe by extension or some defined page like about:config type) But as per my research I do not found any such thing. 2:Cromite or like it but with extension support like kiwi. 3:Privacy browser but just give assurance that google will not track me (as I have nonrooted device I have default webview).

I dont think that Vivaldi,Opera or brave stand anywhere when it is about privacy.

Help/advice/correct me!

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.

You'll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it's easy as pie.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, I'll look deeper into that. They have an adblocking engine as well though and catch a few random ones uBlock doesn't, so I'm not totally convinced they are fully redundant.

[–] Nyfure@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can add lists in ublock..

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and I do, and yet there are still some escapees. Might be a fringe case as I live in Asia, but at least for me it serves a purpose.

[–] Nyfure@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Find the escapees, put them on the list or find a list including them for your particular use-case.
I dont have much things getting through, mostly small sites displaying things, so i just add a filter myself.

Afaik Ghostery was bought and started tracking its users.. or was that another popular extension? Happened to alot of these.. pretty sure it was Ghostery?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

Right, I'll look into that. Thanks!

[–] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago
  • Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.

  • You don't need Ghostery anymore

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Ghostery sends like every website you visit to their servers. Its opt-out and Ublock origin is better anyways. Firefox really has a problem of not marking bad addons

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Mull works the same as Fennec, except it is hardended with patches from Tor and Arkenfox user.js. No real reason IMO to use fennec over Mull, whose developers also contribute to Fennec. Ghostery also changes your fingerprint, acting as one more data point. Mull has a whole bunch of configured flags to reduce fingerprinting, and many more to help with security (like disabling JIT).

Check here for some comparisons:

https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

https://privacytests.org

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Following the pro-Mull comments here I've given it a try for a solid 48h, and just reverted back to Fennec. Mull is simply restricting the user experience too much, and I'm not willing to make the sacrifice.

My biggest annoyances:

  1. Websites don't get information about dark mode from my device and revert back to light mode by default.
  2. Websites don't get information about the system time on my phone and deliver content based on GMT+0.
  3. Some websites get wrong (or none?) information about the screen resolution and are unusable.

I'm aware that those details are suppressed to avoid fingerprinting, and while I believe that the intention is good, it makes using my phone more cumbersome, and that's not something I'm willing to do. So my choices at this point are basically to keep using Mull and deactivate the advanced fingerprinting protection, or use Fennec as before.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

Firefox resistant fingerprinting does the first 2 things, the last one is mobile partial letterboxing. All are anti fingerprinting techniques, but i understand how they may be restrictive. Maybe just add dark reader to have dark mode forced on websites, which technically can be fingerprinted but has a large userbase so idk.

[–] itsaj26744@programming.dev -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] itsaj26744@programming.dev -2 points 11 months ago

Hmm but I dont see anyone working the way I want. Can u explain which addon to use? And how to use them?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That's all I care for.

[–] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm talking about Firefox. Fennec, that is, but the key functions are all the same.

It's not in the settings however, you need to open the site in question and press the lock icon in the address bar next to the URL, the context menu there allows to delete cookies and site specific data.

[–] itsaj26744@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks a lot setup complete, Thanks to all on thread

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago

Cookies are partitioned in Firefox strict mode IIRC.