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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Install Debian. Everything is based on it.

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a hard sell explaining to new people that they will have software up to a couple years out of date.

[–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet they scream when their 6 months old un-updated windows install wants then to update

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet they scream when their 6 months old un-updated windows install wants then to update

The problem isn't the OS being out of date I wouldn't think, it's the applications they actually use. Flatpaks are kind of a solution but not really.

[–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I just wanted to say that if anyone says "this distro is a bit older but it's really stable and good for use" it's scaring away people without them even needing it updated since they're used to getting told by Microsoft that "you have to to update to the newest"

The point about updating apps is also useless to them, as long as it works they will use it, my dad used windows xp with office 2003 until 2021 when the computer finally died, I told him countless times to update to a newer os but he refused every single time

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That may be true for some users but there are those in decent quality looking for a more technical experience. Development comes to mind; you probably should use the latest versions in some cases.

[–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but developers probably already know what is Linux, either from them learning about it at school or just by other developers

But developers probably already know something about their os, they don't just use what they get on a computer or a laptop, most of us probably messed with some deep settings of whatever system we use, i. e. something that a regular user won't do

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My brother is a Linux first-timer, and he specifically asked me to install Debian after I explained that it's stability-focused, but as such sacrifices functional updates and is only globally updated once every two years.

Some people need latest and greatest (i.e. here's your Arch), some need stability over everything (i.e. here's your Debian), some don't need extremes and strike a balance somewhere in between (i.e. everything else).

I use Manjaro (Arch-based) on main PC and Debian on a work laptop. Main PC should better enjoy all the benefits of all things new (while standing a week or two behind bleeding-edge to not cut itself, which is Manjaro's selling point) while work laptop is mission critical and can work perfectly fine with what Debian has to offer, so, Debian it is.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago