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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There's more nuance to this subject than you're implying. It is not the case that either we can't make any reference to race/ethnicity or else Lemmings don't care about racism. Making reference to race or cultural insignia doesn't automatically make something racist.

In other words, there is a middle ground here. Blackface is an obviously hurtful representation of black people that harkens back to when white people saw them as inferior. On the other hand, many middle eastern men wear this particular head covering and there is nothing hateful about it's inclusion into the picture.

[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm guessing that it is being construed as racist because the meme depicts a negative scenario while also including a keffiyeh.

If this was done frequently where a keffiyeh were included in memes or jokes with negative scenarios involving people from Arabic countries it could imply a connection between negative things and Arab people. In that case it could reasonably be considered a racist caricature.

I am wondering if there needs to be an established connection between a depiction and a negative aspect first for it to be racist, or does any depiction of a race or culture in a negative scenario inherently make something racist?

After typing that out I am inclined to believe the latter shouldn't be the case, otherwise essentially any depiction of any negative scenario would be racist.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think Psyched is just looking for any excuse to get offended and act righteous on the internet.

[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I can understand that thought, but I think it's wise to first think things through on the assumption that is not the case.

Though, it sure seems that Occam's razor points to this being the case, along with the other user's point of rampant racism towards Arab people causing some to be primed to assume racism.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will just throw my 2 cents worth of opinion here and gonna say that i think the reason someone might be mad here is that middle easterns do actually face disproportionate racism and I don’t think i need to elaborate on that

The problem is that shitheads see it and go like ‘yA tHese PpL ARe tErrOriSt aND blah blah’, which you can clearly see on other sites

Not to say that other minorities and ethnic groups don’t face the same issue

It’s really more of a problem with ppl than any meme

[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's a very good point. It does prime people to be particularly sensitive, even if there's not really any racism in the situation.