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Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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[–] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It looks like the verified boot security feature of Graphene effectively prevents rooting the OS. I understand wanting root access, it does provide some nice features, but I don't have any need for it. I don't have any bloatware embedded to remove, and I don't need to mod any system apps, so I haven't looked into it much. I know the dev says it isn't planned because it massively increases attack surface, which I personally agree with, but it would be nice to have the option via a separate version of the OS or something. If you need root access, I would suggest looking into LineageOS. It's similar in privacy to Graphene and last I knew could be rooted. Graphene is very focused on security as well as privacy, and for me is a best of both worlds, but if you want to modify the system for various power-user type features, it might not be for you.

[–] iamak@infosec.pub 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Yeah I'm currently running LineageOS. I wanted root mainly for adblock (modifying /etc/hosts) and AppOps. Does Graphene have those features built in?

[–] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't. I use 95% FOSS software, so anything that might have ads just gets denied network permission entirely. As for AppOps, I just looked it up, and that would be something I'd like to see developed as a feature of Graphene. It seems like a genuinely useful, and at the very least privacy-protecting, app. I don't use copy/paste via keyboard, and despite it not having network permissions, I'd still deny it clipboard access simply because it doesn't need it.

[–] iamak@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago

Okay. Thanks a lot! :)

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