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Thousands of Swedish workers are rallying behind 120 Tesla mechanics. The workers are boycotting Teslas until the company signs a contract. Even postal workers may stop delivering mail.

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[–] meekah@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think Sweden's Union culture is especially interesting in the way that they do cross-trade-strikes. Like this article mentions, not only the mechanics who would be affected by the contract are striking. Instead basically anyone providing a service to Tesla stops providing services to them until they submit to the unions. It's really quite a nice system. I'd seriously consider moving there if it wasn't so conservative in some other ways..

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I usually think of us (swedes) as very progressive. In what way would you consider us conservative?

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Like the other commenter assumed, I am talking about the rise of right wingers and xenophobia. Maybe I just read about it a lot and think it's worse than it is. Seeing as this is also happening where I live, in Germany, I suppose it really isn't that strong of an argument.

I do realize you are relatively progressive in a lot of areas like renewable energy, social services etc.

What are your favorite progressive aspects of Sweden?

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see the loud right winged racists as a result on how progressive we are. It's basically a response to us taking in a lot of foreigners a few years ago. Progress is never a straight line.

Swedes are really welcoming to new solutions if they are logical and beneficial.

  • Iso 8601 dates are the norm (yyyy-mm-dd). No weird order or backslashes.
  • Electronic payments are basically the only form of payment.
  • early adoption of high speed internet for most homes.
  • parents get 80% of the salary for 390 days (to share) to stay home with young kids.
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You definitely have a point about progress not being a straight line. I would also like to think we are pretty progressive here in Germany but the recent few years have made me question that. Especially because I don't really agree with the german right wingers being a direct result of the refugees we took in around 2015. A lot of them are very anti establishment generally, almost on a conspiracy theory level. But nontheless, you are right that no curve can forever go up, even if the trend is headed that way.

I don't really think the first 3 points are markers of real progress, but I have to agree they are nice aspects of day to day life.

The last part is definitely interesting. I know we have something somewhat similar here in germany, but as always, it is hidden behind a huge wall of bureaucracy. Is that similar in Sweden or us bureaucracy more lenient/easy?

[–] Usul_00_@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My experience in Sweden suggest those are a very few online loudmouths, not at all indicative of how a visually diverse group was treated there. In fact, one black American mentioned how awesome it was just to be, and have their skin not be an issue in any wsy.

[–] cikano@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Could be weed being illegal here, or the increase of xenophobia / right wingers, or both

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aren't cross-trade strikes a consequence of union solidarity? I think large federated unions in other countries engage is similar protests.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not sure about other countries, but I haven't heard of anything like that here in germany. To be fair, I'm not even really sure how big unions are here, but I always felt like there is pretty decent coverage. I know there is the IG Metall, which apparently has pretty good coverage of a lot of industrial trades. Then there is ver.di that covers a lot of more office-type jobs, and I think there is another one for train drivers and workers. I have heard of a lot of people in IG Metall, but I've also read that the other unions don't have that many members. Maybe we don't do cross trade strikes because of that?