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[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think everyone should be proud of their race, which is the human race... No matter ones ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. we are all the same race. Yes, I know in this context race means something else. But, my point still stands. If everyone would stop worrying about our little meaningless differences and realize that we are all the same race. We would be much better off. Yes, I know that will never happen.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This has always bugged me. It's strange how labeling someone as "racist" actually works in the racists favour; you're partially validating their point by implying there's a greater biological gap than actually exists.

Bigot works well as a replacement if this bugs you, and it's probably more accurate, people with "racist" views are more likely to be homophobic too.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, idk about other cultures/langages but it does feel weird as fuck to french speakers that English even has a concept of "race" for humans in the first place. In french we only use the word "race" for animals. If you want to refer to someone's ethnicity, well, that's the word you use ("ethnie"). Although iirc the distinction is quite recent (from the enlightenment period or something).

And we also have the word "raciste" which refers to one's belief that there are human races, it doesn't validate that belief.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm considering this from the perspective of taxonomy. Race is basically a synonym for "subspecies" which is pretty fucked up.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah iirc that's also why human races aren't really a thing in french.
Although we do use that word for animals' breeds (which are just subspecies iirc) but I guess that's just because it wouldn't really be french if there were no weird exceptions

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At least the French got that going for them.

Hurry up and overthrow your government already, everyone is waiting for one of your classic revolutions.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

yea yea yea we're waiting till the very last moment so it can look all theatrical and fabulous

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah unfortunately our government has been pretty much continuously giving absurd levels of power to the police and they're paving the way for the fascists to win the next elections so it's not looking too good

[–] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Nah, racist is a descriptor of a viewpoint, not something that's inherently built into people because of their ethnicity. So it makes about as much sense to say that calling someone a racist is "validating their point" as saying calling someone a flat earhter somehow validates their ideas about flat earth theory. It's just a silly line of reasoning.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biologically we're the same species, not the same race. There's no concept of race in humans

[–] ArdMacha@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Race was actually invented to justify invading and enslaving people who were different colours