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[–] tillimarleen@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

as a luddite you should know that automation‘s goal never was to save us from unwanted labour. But of course this would have to be accomplished first, before your second assumption can ever come true.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I read an article (probably linked to from here) about how “Luddite” isn’t the insult many people think it is. Luddites weren’t dumb, or superstitious and needlessly afraid of technology.

The historical Luddites were knowledgeable regarding technology. They weren’t anti-technology in general, they simply didn’t trust the rich and powerful to use it in a way that genuinely benefited society as a whole. Unfortunately, capitalists did what capitalists always do - they used machines to churn out inferior goods and cut worker pay. That’s why Luddites destroyed/sabotaged machines.

After learning that, I started considering Luddite a compliment.

[–] tillimarleen@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cool! I‘d also see it as a compliment. That‘s why I was surprised that a fellow luddite would interpret it differently. Alas, it was just this little word that made us stumble. But yeah, the Luddites knew that machines weren‘t evil. But that they would be used to generate more profit and not to lessen their toil

[–] Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

Languages evolve overtime. It's very much an insult these days.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I agree. That's why I said it was their ostensive goal. Their actual goal has only ever been profit.

[–] tillimarleen@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

ah, now I get it. You meant ostensible goal

Edit: I also had to look it up )

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh huh TIL. I also looked it up, and it seems like a real doozy of a word. I had no idea. Looks some some dictionaries say that the two words are interchangeable, whereas others distinguish between them, and in the latter case, I used the wrong one. Language is fun!

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“'Inflammable' means ‘flammable’? What a country!”

[–] tillimarleen@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Haha, what’s this from again?

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s a classic, from way back when The Simpsons was good.

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[–] tillimarleen@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks! Nice to reminisce.