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Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem::Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone, spelling disaster for Google's mobile future

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone"

No.

"Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers SAY THEY use an iPhone"

FTFY.

How many actually use an iPhone remains to be seen.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This. Self selected, self reported. Not a good survey.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have literally described all surveys, good job.

It isn't like people who run surveys don't know this and take it into account, there has been plenty of math that has been sussed out to try to remove the kind of bias that can happen in self reporting.

There's reams of science dedicated to this problem, it isn't new. I'm tired of seeing this argument shat out without a shred of consideration for scientific and mathematic history of taking surveys.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Not all surveys, no. Just the ones where people have chosen to participate and are trusted to provide accurate information.

We know, individually, self selected surveys have problems with validity, as do self reported surveys. Combining the two is a huge problem.

What we can't tell from this article at any rate is if it's a failure in methodology or a failure in reporting. Either could be true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5639921/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115258/

That being said, there IS a more accurate way to define Apple usage among teens and that would be to survey the school districts.

"How many students do you have? How many devices connect to your network wirelessly? What percentage of those are iOS?"

That still wouldn't be 100% accurate due to teachers and staff bringing their own devices, but the students vastly out number staff so the variance could calculated.