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    Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE (lemmy.ml)
    submitted 11 months ago by frippa@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    I use plasma, BTW

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    [–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I just use whatever that does the job. Sometimes I switch to systemd free distros just to know what it's like (currently checking out dinit version of Artix)

    I think most of the discrimination arises from a way of thinking which puts minimalism, simplicity and speed as the first priority and starts a unhealthy obsession over it. Sometimes keeping things too minimal can require more work than doing the actual work. This can also be seen in people who rave about WMs vs DEs and Wayland vs X.

    Oh and I use XFCE btw. I feel like that's the DE which gives me enough control over everything while not bombarding me with a truck ton of settings. I started using DEs again because I was spending all my time ricing away with window managers (and none of my rices were not even that good).

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I sure love journalctl -u taking five second to give me ten lines of logs. Which I have to use because older, more robust services got replaced by default and the replacements got tightly integrated into everything else making it a pain to switch back, AND these replacement exhibits all the flaws that were fixed in older solutions.

    Granted, this will only improve going forward, but why reinvent everything just to put systemd- in front of the name.

    [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 11 months ago

    It works instantly for me actually. Looks like a skill issue.

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

    That's actually a fair point, though I still think systemd does it in a way that's both too obfuscated and too proprietary, which preferences tying everything to itself rather than being able to work alongside and integrate smoothly with other tools that already exist.

    It feels a bit like change for change sake at times... I know there are underlying reasons, but it breaks too many of the core philosophies of *NIX for my taste

    [–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I love being bombarded by a truck ton of settings, that's why I've been exclusively on KDE for years. Settings are awesome!

    [–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    You do you. No offence to KDE, I just prefer gtk over qt. Xfce has been my fallback desktop for a long time. So maybe I got attached to it.