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    Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE (lemmy.ml)
    submitted 11 months ago by frippa@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    I use plasma, BTW

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    [–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Is it difficult to replace systemd?

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Borderline impossible if you aren't using a distro designed with that in mind. Pretty much everything that isn't a program you directly start (e.g. sound system, desktop environment, bluetooth daemon etc.) either only provide a systemd unit to start them (which you'll have to manually translate into e.g. a shell script if you want it to work with your new init system) or is entirely reliant on systemd to function.

    Your choices of distro if you don't want systemd are Debian, Void, Artix, and Gentoo, and afaik that's about it.

    Replacing components of the systemd suite (e.g. using connman or networkmanager instead of systemd-networkd) isn't actually that bad as long as your DE has support for them, but replacing systemd itself is something you are building your entire system around.

    [–] pascal@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Your choices of distro if you don’t want systemd are Debian, Void, Artix, and Gentoo, and afaik that’s about it.

    IIRC Debian was one of the first distros implementing systemd.

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago

    It still leaves sysvinit as an option. Debian doesn't lock you into systemd. Heck, it doesn't even lock you into Linux -- you can use Debian on top of the FreeBSD kernel if you so desire

    [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

    Extremely. When things like your DE starts being dependent on systemd, you don't want to replace it.

    I had posted about the monopoly that systemd has, and was down voted to oblivion.