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Yes, also Teslas (media.mastodon.scot)

submitted 10 months ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

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[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It literally is borne out by data though. The way that source wriggles around is crazy.

They carefully pick the worst case scenario tire wear number then use it as a baseline for the mathematics that underlie the sentence

the tyres would be bald in less than 1,358 miles, or two months’ worth of driving

and extrapolate that out to

we now know that tyre wear is nowhere near as big a contributor to particulate matter emissions as some media coverage has suggested

The dancing around weight and tire wear is even more absurd:

modern electric vehicles aren’t actually that much heavier than many modern petrol or diesel cars, especially with the recent trend towards bigger and heavier SUVs

and a long section about taxi tire math that ends with the buried admission

Ryan notes that his diesel taxis do tend to get an extra 5,000 to 10,000 miles of lifespan out of their front tyres

But even if you aren’t interested in reading that source with a critical eye and recognizing the ways it manipulates language and information to make a point (I’m still not clear why a towing company wrote this), you can literally just look next to the authors name and see:

Author of this report commissioned by the RAC

I genuinely cannot understand why you’d choose to believe a dubious blog entry from a towing company over research from literally any other source.

Shame on you for making me bring out the [ ] over the British equivalent of a triple a guide.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But even if you aren’t interested in reading that source with a critical eye and recognizing the ways it manipulates language and information to make a point (I’m still not clear why a towing company wrote this), you can literally just look next to the authors name and see:

The RAC isn't just a "towing company". It provides a range of motor services like breakdown assistance, insurance, vehicle inspections, servicing, fleet management. Therefore it happens to know a great deal about automotive matters unlike say Forbes or some other outlet which does not. It's also not some stealth EV proponent controlled by some shadowy puppet master, it just happens to have knowledge from supporting fleets of EVs of their outcomes. The AA, a similar organisation also debunks EV myths, again coming from a position of experience.

[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

If the towing company is so smart and has all the data and experience, why do they have to commission reports that they then deploy every narrative manipulation technique in the book towards when reporting upon?

Couldn’t they just publish all their good data in a peer reviewed journal?