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EV’s and all cars are a dead-end technology. They serve the auto industry and don’t help much else. We need more trains and eBikes.
Are e-bikes not EV's? I agree, trains would be good too but this is still a step in the right direction.
This is probably the most brain dead take I've ever heard
Wish I knew what made you soo bitter about EVs. (Bad experience with a short-range used one?) My impression is that they're an ok part of what we need, along with a large cut in driving of the sort you talk about.
Maybe this...
Maybe it was the lithium coup. Maybe it's the fact that the infrastructure required is impossible to build and far more expensive than a functional rail network... Like the one that was deployed in the US prior to AAA tearing up most of the lines. I dunno, maybe it's an understanding of the concept of "induced demand" or maybe it's the problem of density that makes car centric society unsustainable and a concern about the suburban ponzi scheme. Maybe it's the fact that the choice of where to build highways and which neighborhoods to bulldoze was explicitly racist. Maybe they just saw a picture of Huston once. Maybe it's the increasing numbers of pedestrian deaths and the fact that kids basically aren't safe biking outside in the US and Canada. It could be the fact that the higher weight of EVs make them significantly more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclist, and even other drivers.
I dunno, lots of reasons to think cars are fucking shit and EVs are included.
Cars are absolutely not the solution. The solution would remove cars from the road because every single person carrying several tons of metal with them isn't efficient. The problem is that the solution would negatively impact the oil industry. Instead we're being sold a false soliton, just like when they tried to sell us Hydrogen fuel cell cars so that they could get another decade before coming up with another scam.
We've been exactly here before. This is exactly the same scam as the last time. It cost is a decade, and people are buying this hoax exactly like the last one.
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-hydrogen-hoax