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[–] Wooster@startrek.website 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

12 hour shifts certainly isn’t helping any either.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Knew some nurses that did 3 12s and then had 4 days off. Seems like it could be nice on one hand.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

My neighbor works in the NICU. She does 3 12s. She then does two more for the overtime pay. I don't think she's the exception anymore.

It's horrible to watch someone burnout just to support their family..

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Until it ends up being 5 12s in a row becsuse they are understaffed...

[–] flicker@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is me!

The 3 on, 4 days off, 4 days on, 3 days off cycle of 12 hour shifts is what I do as in-home health care for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities!

And as a manager, I absolutely do get stuffed into covering 5 or more days. During the pandemic I was doing front half days (Sunday Monday Tuesday) back half nights (Wednesday Thursday Friday). And it's hell!

They increased our pay to $15 an hour in my state as an emergency order so we could finally get some staff, but it's impossible to get enough people and don't even talk to me about quality...

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TO $15/hr? Jesus, I hope you live in a low cost of living area.

[–] flicker@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I do but not low enough for this.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bro our warehouse workers start at $20/hr full time with benefits, you're not getting paid enough.

[–] flicker@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know. But I literally take care of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. As in, cerebral palsy. As in, if we quit, these people will have no care.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I really respect and appreciate you doing this for them. I hope you all can unionize and get better wages for yourselves.

My grandfather needed similar care before his death and I'm pretty confident I'm going to need similar care at some point in my own life. The average person really doesn't appreciate how they can become disabled. So thank you, and good luck advocating for yourself. I'm sorry you're so underpaid.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

but you'll get called-in for mandatory ot on day one off of four; which then turns into a back-to-back. then for good measure, your last day off will be cut short as you're called-in early.

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 2 points 9 months ago

12 hour shifts aren't all that terrible, as long as you actually get off on time and are paid well for working the appropriate amount of time (whether that's 3/4/4/3 or 5/2/2/5, or 2/2/3/2/2/3, or any other schedule that gets you close to the standard hours per week). I've done 12s for about a decade, and haven't had any problems with it aside from occasionally running into schedule issues because it's hard to predict what day you'll be working/off without calculating which week of the pay period it is.

It all returns to how much work you have to do in those 12 hours. Having even a few minutes of downtime repeatedly throughout a shift has been going the way of the dodo, and that's going back to the original point of poor pay and fewer people to do everything needed.

[–] hpca01@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

IDK my gf works in ICU and loves it, she works 6 days straight and gets 8 off.