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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It won't be because people don't care. The predictions right now show a conservative majority. Of course the other parties will try to make it about climate change but the reality is a lot of people simply think it's not their concern. Rather it will be angled on cost of life and inflation and whatnot

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Multiple elections have established that people do care. As the article points out, every federal election since 2008 (whoops, except 2011) has been won by a party that either promised a carbon tax, or had already implemented one.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"promised" is the key word. We will eventually need to make lifestyle changes, but no party wants to wear that at election time. So we have delays:

the federal government is internally tracking progress on as many as 115 climate-related policies. But "delays" in implementing some of the most significant policies are endangering Canada's chances of meeting that 2030 target.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

One of the major causes of delays is provincial resistance. With the major provinces having conservative governments, roll outs are stonewalled at every opportunity. Friggen Sask over there threating to break federal law and refuse to collect a legal tax, for example. Alberta would rather burn the country to the ground than even think about something other than oil extraction.

It's ridiculous.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you're not going to catch me defending the current regime's overall track record.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The predictions show a conservative plurality not a majority... that's a significant difference because it's extremely unlikely that the CPC will be able to form government.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

338Canada seat projection | November 5, 2023

Cons 169-226 seat projection (170 for majority)

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that's bad news for most people.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

I think it’s a lack of civics education

People see “punish municipalities for not meeting housing quotas” and think that’s a good idea

They don’t understand that that means higher property taxes and an indefinite increasing housing minimum means that the municipalities will not keep up. (Among a vast amount of other issues)

[–] DoomsdaySprocket@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If this is from one of those phone surveys, then the only people answering the phones and actually doing them are boomers. Highly suspect numbers.

I don’t know anyone that actually answers those surveys, even the people that initially pick up the phone.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

The 338Canada project is a statistical model of electoral projections based on opinion polls, electoral history, and demographic data.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

We're still 2 years off from an election unless something truly crazy happens, such projections are worthless.