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Where are Purism, System76, Tuxedo Computers, Starlabs, SlimbookES, and others? Instead there's Dell, HP, ASUS, and Fujitsu...

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At a guess, probably because the ones made with Linux in mind aren't the ones you won't be sure of.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I follow. Won't be sure of what?

[–] boblin@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Take a machine with Linux preinstalled. Will it run Linux without problems? Yeah, of course.

Take a machine with Windows preinstalled. Will it run Linux without problems? Check the list.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Counterpoint: All the hardware and software with broken official linux support with the justification of "linux users can fix it themselves they're used to it".

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think that is how these programs work. Community made lists an Wikis, yes. But this requires some corporate contracts, money being paid and some laptop samples being send to a laboratory where they will be kept for years and continuously tested for years. I suppose it's going to be quite pricey and no-one will do that to a random windows laptop. Unless someone says I'm going to buy 7000 of those if they have that 'certified' sticker on them.

But I get how a company like Sytem76 would say, we won't pay for that, we have Linux in our name and are just selling to consumers.

This certification program is for big companies that have requirements and contracts. They need to buy certified stuff. It's not meant for consumers or small companies at all. That's also why the featured laptops are a shiny Dell XPS 13 and a Thinkpad P16. Something you'd find at work.

Well more than half of that list is Dell products. Followed by some Lenovo and HP. That's it. (except for servers.)

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When I bought a system76, I didn't think for a second to check whether it was on Canonical's list. I didn't even know there was a certification.

So I believe the poster meant, a buyer can be sure they are getting hardware with linux support regardless of a list kept by ubuntu. But if you are buying from a brand that has no pledge to be linux friendly, a list of what works out of what's available helps.