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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This kind of legislation fundamentally misunderstands how easy it is for bad people to build their own end-to-end encryption layers on top of other messaging systems.

This person is mistakenly taking the justifications for these laws at face value. These governments aren’t trying to thwart bad actors, they’re trying to control their entire population. To point out that scofflaws can circumvent the laws is to misunderstand their true purpose.

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content

Independent report, which has been posted before. It doesn't even seem to be as deep as controlling the population, rather they just take big US tech money in exchange for pushing these laws.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

As an old nerd I’ve lived through previous battles in the crypto wars.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Often that US tech money comes from peculiar places, like In-Q-Tel, for example.

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't it be easier and more direct to simply impose a tax to those external big tech services?

I don't understand why using protection against "bad actors" as an excuse is necessary at all if getting money from big tech were the ultimate goal. A lot of people within the EU would happily support such a tax targeting big US companies, it's the privacy problems what we are pushing against, not the fees. So I'd expect a more direct and honest fee for external companies making business within the EU would be easier to pass if that were what they actually wanted, wouldn't it?

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Tax goes to the government account, politicians don't profit from it as they have determined wages. Lobbying money goes to multiple individuals pockets. So the individuals need to convince the whole parlament that a certain law is good, then they get paid. Thats why they lie.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

And yet it's still important to strike down their bullshit reasoning so that normies can see the argument for what it truly is.