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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not trying to piss on your parade, you've done awesome, but this story of yours tells me less about how great homeschooling is and more how badly US education sucks

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Homeschooling is so common in the US because the education system sucks. It's literally a 'fine, I'll do it myself'

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Went to look up how many kids are homeshooled and it is much higher than I expected. Just over 5% of kids apparently. I would have guessed 1-2%. It looks like home schooling has been on the rise as it was closer to 2% in 2000.

[–] tinkeringidiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Also Covid. Can’t speak for everywhere, but that whole debacle had a LOT of people switch to home schooling (my state has an excellent licensed online program available). Many have since gone back, but enough have stuck with it that all the “kid services” (extra curriculars) providers in our area have added home school sessions during the middle of the day.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I have a suspicion is related to either:

  1. "public school teachers are just groomers teaching our kids about woke and not about how Jesus rode the dinosaurs 6,000 years ago"
  2. The protracted effort to gut public schools. We were doing conferences the other day and the teacher was talking about how they try to fit more field trips and real world things especially with the absence of things that we took for granted (I'm elder-millennial, she's gen x) like home-ec, various shop classes, etc. Anecdotal, but I think just about all of us agree our schools need more funding, teachers need to get paid, we need a greater variety of areas of study, etc...
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not why they do it, though. They do it because they hate anything resembling woke and it's been that way for decades longer than that word has been around.

[–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't know what the motivations are for everyone. You only hear about this topic on the rage bait side of the internet

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I know a family that lives full-time on the road, so they, of course, home school (RV school?). He's medically retired, she still works remotely. I don't know exactly how they do the schooling.

So that's a scenario where it's more about how they want to live than any particular issue with a given school.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why my parents did it.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have brothers who went down the Facebook MAGA rabbit hole and never came back. They complain all day long about how schools are corrupting children and that everyone should home school. In my experience, religious and political intolerance is the basis for most people doing this.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In my experience it isn't. I guess till either of us find studies we're at an impass.

Edit:

In addition, parents of homeschooled students were asked to identify the single most important reason to homeschool their child in 2019. The most common was a concern about school environment, such as safety, drugs, or negative peer pressure (25 percent). Fifteen percent of homeschooled students had parents who reported that the most important reason was a dissatisfaction with the academic instruction at other schools. Thirteen percent had parents who reported that the most important reason was a desire to provide religious instruction.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/tgk/homeschooled-children#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20was%20a,academic%20instruction%20at%20other%20schools.

[–] yaaaaayPancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wonder how much of the 15% who were dissatisfied with the academic instruction were dissatisfied due to it not having religious instruction, but didn't want to indicate it outright by choosing the specific choice for that.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You gave yourself as an example affirming what I said but suddenly we're at an impasse? This isn't adding up.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found it after writing the comment originally.

Do you count safety drugs and negative peer pressure as religious? I was counting that and academic rigor as the schools being bad. And religious reasons I was counting as religious.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problems with schools really come down to a choice by the middle class. That choice was that they wanted to keep their money rather than live in a good society. Schools have suffered as a result. This is by choice, not by design.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Sure. But that doesn't change that people homeschool because the schools are bad. I absolutely agree that schools should be better.

[–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

100% agreed.

But also keep in mind that this was a county program, run by the county school system.

So the potential IS there. We just need to stop hamstringing our teachers with bullshit restrictions, financial burdens, and NCLB bullshit.