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[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

one would think that murdering 50 million people of which 6 million were jews would lead to a more general responsibility to protect human lifes and international rule of law.

EDIT: It is truly amazing that human rights and international law get downvoted, when it is in the context of Israel. We are back on the way to barbarism i guess.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, personal political opinion as a German, is that it does and that we should obviously be opposed to the killing of any innocent person, but

  1. there's multiple conflicts going on on this planet. We won't be able to solve all of them.

  2. we also have an obligation to use our military defensively, not build up a massive army that can start WW3.

  3. not everyone here holds the same opinion. This may come as a surprise, but there's nazis in Germany. Nazis that pay taxes and vote in our democracy.
    There's also people who are younger than 80 years old. They may understand this obligation on a theoretical level, but when push comes to shove, they cannot possibly feel a personal obligation.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

there’s multiple conflicts going on on this planet. We won’t be able to solve all of them.

But in those where we are involved we should take care of human life without being partisan. And most certainly not send weapons to actors comitting war crimes. This of course is not limited to Israel. Germany kept sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to commit terrible atrocities in Jemen. Heck Germany exported chemical plants and chemicals for the production of nerve gas to Saddam Hussein, whcih he subsequently used to murder Kurdish people in what remains the most devastating use of nerve gas since WW1.

[–] branchial@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

βœ‹ International law

πŸ‘‰ Rules-based international order

[–] Nihilistra@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

And not blindly support a criminal state like Israel.

The average German is really unable to critize jews or Israel. They just follow blindly because that's how you get in less trouble.

It's sad, state media here is 95% pro Israel and 5% articles that acknowledge the humanitarian crisis, but never seem to grasp that it's Israel that is throwing 18000 bombs into an apartheid Ghetto.