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[–] caesar_salad83@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

yeah, but for example: Luxembourg - the last grand duchy in the world, one of four institutional seats of the european union, capital city is an UNESCO world heritage site, has a 1000 years of history.

Idaho - potatoes. wait... maybe it's Iowa? or Ohio?

edit: really seems like people can't take a joke, lmao

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one under a monarchy has actual pride in their people and country, why should we care that the city was founded from a royal whorehouse by people we're also descended from anyways?

[–] Nolegjoe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck are you talking about?

Something bootlickers can never understand.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Idaho - potatoes. wait... maybe it's Iowa? or Ohio?

Idaho and Iowa and Ohio all had rich histories going back tens of thousands of years before Europeans destroyed them lmao. You're just upset they don't have 1,000s of years of white history.

Also it's funny you mentioned Ohio in your comment because the Ohio Mounds became a UNESCO heritage site like a month ago

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, so you know all that history? And how much of that culture is still prevalent? And how much impact did it have on the rest of the world?

Those Mounds are barely 1000 years old. Ireland has similar structures and they are about 4000 years older.

But who cares anyway, in the end the history of America is bound to the history of Europe because the majority are descendants of Europeans while the natives were suppressed and eradicated.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I studied pre-Columbian America for five years in University so yes I absolutely know that history lol.

"All" that history? There's no such thing. But it doesn't help that the majority of it was burned down or killed by colonizers a few hundred years ago.

And how much of that culture is still prevalent? And how much impact did it have on the rest of the world?

You are literally proving my point about Europeans destroying American history

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Studying 5 years of primitive history? What are you going to do with it?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tenochtitlan was the capital of an empire of 5 million people that only fell apart in 1521 because of disease brought by colonists. What are you going to do with the history of which Hapsburg married which cousin?

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus, shut the fuck up. We get it, you don't think any culture other than your white European culture is worth studying.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

white

Why are Americans so obsessed with race?

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because we're literally talking about the native people's of the Americas and their cultures, who happen to be not white and colonialism was spurred on in part due racism.

Hem and haw as much as you like but race and racism plays a large part in how and why contemporary America exists today.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poland - borscht and poverty. wait... Maybe it's Ukraine? or Belarus?

Sweden - vikings? wait... Maybe it's Norway? or Denmark?

Germany - Fascists? wait... Maybe it's Italy? or Hungary?

France - bread? wait... Maybe it's Netherlands? or Germany?

Yes, it's easy to trivialize something you know nothing about. Now maybe it's not interesting to you, but to the horror of history YouTubers- everywhere has history, and the history of some random inbred monarchs isn't exactly relevant or interesting to everyone.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poland - borscht and poverty. wait… Maybe it’s Ukraine? or Belarus?

I'd say pierogi is more synonymous with Poland. Also it's economy is one of the greatest successes of a post Warsaw nation. It out performs the former East Germany in several metrics.

Sweden - vikings? wait… Maybe it’s Norway? or Denmark?

All three produced Vikings. Though the ones that harassed England were mostly Danish Vikings with some arriving from Norway and Sweden later on.

Germany - Fascists? wait… Maybe it’s Italy? or Hungary?

Germany and Italy both had fascism. Italy invented it during WWI.

France - bread? wait… Maybe it’s Netherlands? or Germany?

And Baguettes and croissants and frig legs! Germany does have some...interesting bread varieties.

the history of some random inbred monarchs isn’t exactly relevant or interesting to everyone.

European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs. The language you speak, the political system you use all came from Europe. Your insults come across like a teenager ranting at his parents that he's smarter than them.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Baguettes and croissants and frig legs! Germany does have some...interesting bread varieties.

Baguettes and croissants are also bread...

Your insults come across like a teenager ranting at his parents that he's smarter than them.

I think you don't understand what I said. I am not insulting Europe, I am European. I am criticizing your closeminded perspective on what you don't know about.

European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs.

Of course, and the history of every US state is a lot more than just potatoes.

European history is a lot more than just some inbred monarchs.

If you're talking about the US, a constitutional bicameral presidential republic, with three branches and a judiciary of your peers, was first done in the US. In fact most modern constitutions are inspired by the American constitution.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you’re talking about the US, a constitutional bicameral presidential republic, with three branches and a judiciary of your peers, was first done in the US. In fact most modern constitutions are inspired by the American constitution.

  • Republic - Greece and Rome.
  • Democracy - Greece
  • Judiciary & Jury - Saxon/England
  • Common Law Legal System - Saxon/England
  • Principles of the Enlightenment that inspired the Founding Fathers - Germany, France, Italy and England

More countries have used the Canadian constitution than the US as their framework.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, amazingly, literally everything is inspired and influenced by things in the past, since the US founders were influenced largely by European cultures they were influenced by Europe. But of course, all those European cultures were even more significantly influenced by Levant cultures. Why learn European history that was just savages a few thousand years ago when you could learn Levant cultures?