this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
233 points (95.7% liked)

News

23305 readers
3692 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Mike Johnson’s meteoric elevation from an under-the-radar congressman from Louisiana to second-in-line to the U.S. presidency sent journalists, Democrats and Republicans alike to uncover information about the personal and professional history of the most right-wing and least experienced House Speaker in history, who took the top job on Wednesday.

On the day Johnson was voted in, several major right-wing social media accounts on X, formerly known as Twitter, began circulating clips of an interview Johnson gave to PBS in 2020, in which he told journalist Walter Isaacson that the police killing of George Floyd was “an act of murder” and called for “systemic change.” Notably, Johnson said in the interview that he had learned about racism in America through the experience of raising a Black son, Michael.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Okay.
but.
There's zero photos online at all. No mention on the campaign, either. his campaign "about" section says "Father of four". that decision is said to have happened after his~~ speakership election~~ election to congress. There is a complete vacuum of photos online when you do an image search. plenty of family photos with four kids, but none with a fifth, older, black kid.

if this son exists, then he was scrubbed out of existence.... which is weird. I'm actually not sure which is worse. (I mean, at least acknowledge him somehow, right?)

(edit, fixed timing. Either way, he would have had a black son during at least one campaign,)

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I definitely don't know the whole story. I'd love to know the truth provided it didn't invade on the privacy of someone that didn't ask for any of this. Which would be impossible to know without invading the privacy of someone. I know time and time again I've been fooled when trying to give conservatives even the slightest benefit of the doubt.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Which would be impossible to know without invading the privacy of someone.

not that hard, really. I mean, yeah. I guess it could be an invasion.... but, like a quick wave to the cameras make sense, because people are absolutely going to go nuts over it. I absolutely feel for the supposed son who absolutely deserves his privacy.

The only reason i could see the guy absolutely refusing to bail his dad out and just announce that he exists or maybe drop some old family photos with the son in it... is trauma. like. I'm not sure which is worse here- making up a token black son, or, that son deciding they were so awful to him that it was necessary to cut them out of his life.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason here, is BS. The kid is real, he's a grown-ass adult with children of his own that he wants to keep away from the general public. This is conservative propaganda to make you think Johnson's statements on racial injustice (which lean toward "my white kids get opportunities and have an easier life that my black kid doesn't) are bunk. Which they're not, just because the guy doesn't want to do photo ops and give press releases doesn't mean he's fake. Johnson was first elected to Congress less than 10 years ago. His son made a decision not to be a pawn for his adopted father's political career to avoid the public, not his father; and the public are generally terrible, which makes it an appropriate and rational decision.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which they’re not, just because the guy doesn’t want to do photo ops and give press releases doesn’t mean he’s fake. Johnson was first elected to Congress less than 10 years ago. His son made a decision not to be a pawn for his adopted father’s political career to avoid the public, not his father; and the public are generally terrible, which makes it an appropriate and rational decision.

  1. explain this screen grab from his own campaign website:

  2. Recognizing the son wants no part of his political career doesn't mean disavowing said son, does it? Why on earth would would they say 'father of four' instead of 'father of five'?

Wikipedia also lists his family as being 4 children. every source I can say he has four children. I can see no photos on any variation of websearch I can find of Johnson with a some one both identified as his son, who is black. none. Maybe, some how, magically, nobody ever looked into that or posted pictures on line... ever... or maybe it was scrubbed.

I don't know. What I do know is scrubbing yourself out like that is only going to raise questions. because as you say, the public is... well terrible.

(edit:) There seems to be some prior interiviews where Michael is mentioned. In that article they talk- too briefly to be clear about it- an interview with Ms Day (I can't tell if she's the one asking the questions or being asked?) from the article-

In his public remarks over the years, Mr. Johnson describes Michael as his son and did not correct an interviewer who described Michael as “adopted.” Ms. Day said in an interview that the Johnsons did not formally adopt Michael because of the “lengthy adoption process.” Ms. Day declined to say whether Michael was using “Johnson” as his surname.

Mr. Johnson has spoken publicly about Michael largely when he has talked about race. He has described Michael as a “success story” and likened the experience of being a white couple adopting a Black teenager to the movie “The Blind Side,” the 2009 film that depicts a wealthy white family taking in an impoverished Black teenager who becomes a football star.
(end edit)

further, here's the 2020 PBS article he talks about him. Relevant quotes:

Yes, sure. We took Michael in almost 20 years ago. He was 14. I often — the easiest way to summarize the story is, I ask friends, have you seen the story “The Blind Side”? That was our story, except my Michael was not an NFL prospect, a similar story to that. And we took him in as our own. And Michael is now doing great. This is 20 years later. He’s in his mid-30s. He lives in California, four children of his own. He and Adonza (ph), they have a great family life. And he says to people, he shares his testimony that, were it not for our intervention in his life, that he would certainly have joined a gang, gotten on drugs, wound up in prison, or dead on the street somewhere. And that’s the harsh reality that we have here. What it’s taught me is, we now have four other children of our own. And my oldest son, Jack, ironically, this year is 14. And I have thought often through all these ordeals over the last couple of weeks about the difference in experiences between my two 14-year-old sons, Michael, being a black American, and Jack being white, Caucasian. They have different challenges. My son Jack has an easier path. He just does. The interesting thing about both these kids, Michael and Jack, is they’re both handsome, articulate, really talented kids gifted by God to do lots of things. But the reality is — and no one can tell me otherwise — my son Michael had a harder time than my son Jack is going to have simply because of the color of his skin. And that’s a reality. It’s an uncomfortable, painful one to acknowledge, but people have to recognize that’s a fact.

Any one you know whose actually adopted people? They do not make the kind of distinction he makes here. "My oldest son Jack ..." So; I say, either the guy doesn't exist, or something happened that caused the guy to not want to be part of Johnson's family.

It is interesting that a guy who supposedly learned about racism second hand, by raising a black child... is so deeply part of the anti-civil-rights crowd... is a bit shocking. And his issue with reparations is that "they have a culture of self reliance"?!

something smells off here. that's all I'm saying, really.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't speak to what happened during his upbringing, but if the man I saw as my father, who took me in as a teenager, decided to enter into politics, conservative politics no less, I'd tell him to visit for Christmas but leave me out of the politics. I'd want to go to the grocery and raise my family without being harassed by reporters and crazy random idiots, especially if he was a minor local politician in the community where I lived, but even moreso if national office were ever a possibility. The best way to achieve that would be to not let the general public even know about him, but he can still be in the family text chat and bring the grandkids by to see the rest of the family in person and in private.

The guy just wants Internet detectives like you to leave him and his family alone. Doing a good job of that doesn't mean anything should smell off.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)