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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When "they used to tell us we couldnt trust Wikipedia" it wasn't in contrast to random websites; it was in contrast to primary sources.

That's still true today. Wikipedia is generally less reliable than encyclopedias are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia.

The people who tell you not to trust Wikipedia aren't saying that you shouldn't use it at all. They're telling you not to stop there. That's exactly what they told us about encylopedias too.

If you're researching a new topic, Wikipedia is a great place for an initial overview. If you actually care about facts, you should double check claims independently. That means following their sources until you get to primary sources. If you've ever done this exercise it becomes obvious why you shouldn't trust Wikipedia. Some sources are dead links, some are not publicly accessible and many aren't primary sources. In egregious cases the "sources" are just opinion pieces.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wiki was as reliable as encyclopedias in 2005. It is far superior today.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that."
-Homer Simpson

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a lot of bias on pages about religion, I find.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My kind of bias, or the wrong kind?

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious, thank you

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For example there were pages that would state that "Scholars agree that the gospel of ____ was not written by _____ but was written by an anonymous author" when the original sources never discredited the original claim of authorship, but were essentially "I can't be sure who wrote it", never actually saying/discrediting that it wasn't written by said evangelist.

I think the anonymous perspective belongs there, but when the original source says "I cannot be sure who wrote it" then that's not saying it wasn't written by them.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Just look in this thread. I'm not talking about writing college papers. I'm talking about the boomers saying you can't trust anything you read on the internet.

[–] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Anecdotal, but I've never had a teacher tell me why Wikipedia wasn't a good source. Similarly, I've never had a teacher educate students on how to properly use resources like Wikipedia as a starting point for sources. All my peers and I heard was "Wikipedia is bad, never use it, it's not reliable, don't trust anything from it."

I wish I had been taught why and how earlier, but I had to learn why and how myself.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The thing is: in the not to distant future encyclopedias will be a thing of the past.