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Hey! I’m currently on Fedora Workstation and I’m getting bored. Nothing in particular. I’ve heard about immutable distros and I’m thinking about Fedora Kinoite. The idea is interesting but idk if it’s worth it. CPU and GPU are AMD. Mostly used for gaming.

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[–] Sentau@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes you can do all this with regular distros but not as conveniently. Especially cleanly switching from gnome to kde and vice versa is a nightmare. And by switching I mean removing one completely(including dependencies) and installing the other.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why a nightmare? It should be very easy on any distro with well organized packages. Remove gnome meta-package, install kde meta-package.

[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

its an easy: sudo apt install task-kde-desktop; sudo apt purge task-gnome-desktop; sudo apt autopurge

In testing or unstable this can be a problem though.

I feel like, many people just don't understand exactly how a distro and package managers work. immutable os feels like it allows priotizing only on on a small core part of the distribution which is immutable and slapping everything else on via flatpak or snap.

i don't like it and i sometimes wonder if we are not going backwards with that approach.

[–] neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not one hundred percent on the train of immutable, however, i have undertakes nixos and don't user flatpak/snap. The nix configuration file is where i install everything.

But while.i agree its not super hard to switch DEs on something like ubuntu etc. But one cool thing on nix (which i think you can do on any distro with nix package manager installed) is that you can test the package without installing it at all. The roll bavk id also nice cuz ive had situations where apt gets "broken" ive always been able to fix it with a little searching but its always frightening. Knowing that nix can go back to an old config at anytime makes me a little more comfortable

[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough, I like nix. The concept is way ahead of silverblue and the likes. With nix nothing is hidden behind a compatibility layer. I feel like if we really need immutability, nix is the way to go.

[–] Sentau@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I always depencies left around from the DE that was removed. Maybe it is because my commands are not the right one but I follow what is recommended by the distro wikis. Like if I am using gnome and then download kde just to try it out(without removing gnome), don't feel like using kde and remove it, I have packages and dependencies leftover from kde when I uninstall it. Neofetch too show an increase in packages even though the only action done was installing kde and uninstalling it