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Well yeah, it's up to them, but I don't think they're monolithic. They'll eventually negotiate once they run out of men or weapons. I don't think they'd be slaves if Russia captured Kyiv either. Perhaps without political rights, but that wasn't much different than before.
I think that's exactly the point - they know how it was before, and they know how it can be by looking in neighboring EU.
Not worth dying for imo
“Give me liberty or give me death”
— Patric Henry
“There are very few things worth dying for, liberty for yourself and for your loved ones is one of them”
— MxM111
Liberty is practically a myth
That depends where you live, what your cultural upbringing is. If you are from Russia, sure. There, it is a myth, and democracy is something to scare people by.