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I've had a certain debate a few times where you might say we argue over the "semantics" of the meat industry.

I am what you would call a vegetarian. While vegetarians won't eat things that caused harm to produce, a vegan won't eat anything having to do with an animal. A lot of those who would fall under the latter category hate us because they say anything that remotely resembles someone enjoying an animal product is supporting the meat industry which then kills animals, which means merely eating an animal product makes someone a murderer.

Meanwhile, there's this concept many call piracy. It's the idea that, as the meme proverbially puts it, "you can download a car". The idea here, which I say in the way I do because there's still an ongoing debate about it, is that it affects nobody. But then there's the whole industry thing I mentioned. People on the other side of the debate often say "well what about the industry". I'm not sure where on the scale in this topic you might put me, but I feel like there's a glaring contradiction here. When it comes to animals, people think of the industry, but otherwise that's not a factor.

My question is... why?

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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if I follow. Are we talking about the people that produce cracks to pirate stuff (ex. empress?). I am also vegetarian but one thing that I always keep in mind is: "There's no ethical consumption under capitalism". At the same time I believe people are able to influence the world for the better by doing what they believe is right (hence not eating meat, reducing carbon footprint etc).

If your question is regarding the consumption of piracy in general I'd say there are things I would never pirate (indie games) and others that I almost feel obligated to do so (hello Nintendo). I will never give the same importance if I'm hurting a company bottom line as I do to animal suffering/explotation.

At the same time, I don't care too much about validation from other people. There are many looking for ways to feel better about themselves through putting others down.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

“There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism”

This. I couldn't have used a better way of alluding to the question. The two things I mentioned just happen to be two of the pillars of the demographics here. I thought people would get it.