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[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone break out that Edward Snowden quote about having "nothing to hide".

Because those people are the reason these dumb things are proposed.

[–] Steve@communick.news 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."
- Edward Snowden

[–] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like Snowden as much as any terminally online person does, but I don't think his quote is really the best as it supposes there are people with nothing to hide. Everyone has something to hide, if for no other reason than out of embarrassment.

There's a reason why we close the bathroom door despite the fact that everyone knows we are taking a shit.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. You don't have to be a pedo or criminal or whatever to want privacy. We all want at least some level of privacy, and many people have an actual need for it.

I'm American, and we've had multiple similar efforts to destroy encryption "to protect the children"

In reality (and this is what they want) it will make it exponentially more dangerous for women needing abortions and LGBT people in dangerous situations. Journalists and confidential informants lose huge levels of the anonymity required to even investigate and report on things.

And don't even start on the floodgates of espionage government agencies will do.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Recommended reading: Daniel J. Solove's "A Taxonomy of Privacy" (2006).

Solove lays out sixteen different kinds of information privacy concerns -- touching on topics including government surveillance, harassment by paparazzi, improper disclosure of medical information, false-light defamation, and even someone peeping on you in the bathroom.

Most of them have nothing to do with the person whose privacy is threatened having done anything wrong!

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 year ago

it supposes there are people with nothing to hide.

That's exactly the opposite of what it supposes.
It's saying that the people who make that argument, absolutely have things they want to keep private. Just like everyone has something to say.