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[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

So glad my boss trusts our team. Quite literally only have a 30 minute meeting with everyone, once a week.

Very rare they ever ask anything from us. If they ever do, I make sure it's a priority and it gets done.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 13 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I thought you would say 30 minutes a day, and here I thought "hey not so bad". 30 minutes a week?! We opened every workday with 45minutes to 1h and a half "stand-up meetings". We had full days dedicated to talking about scrum every now and then. Nothing ever got gone, nothing worthwhile was ever discussed, it made my hate my profession. Man I am not going through that ever again.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You sound like you worked at my last company also. Scrum is good in principal, but in practice it was just another thing people used to pretend they were valuable rather than actually being valuable. You know you’re doing it wrong when you have to have meeting about how to have meetings before each meeting.

[–] Nahdahar@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

We didn't have a scrum master but a new development leader implemented it in practice and managed it amazingly. He really made sure that time isn't wasted and the meetings were short, concise and everyone loved it after a few months. Work processes improved greatly, they used to be in chaos because management were (and still are) a bunch of imbeciles and supposedly didn't listen to the developers regarding how work processes should be improved.

But then his probation was over with a 3 month period of notice, and upper management started fucking with him because he refused to sign a legally binding contract of responsibility for the entire company's infrastructure which wasn't part of the deal, and was out of his scope (leading the development teams != being responsible for the entire company's infrastructure).

They started going behind his back and slowly destroyed what he had built and after a while he couldn't handle it and resigned effective immediately because they threatened him with a lawsuit regarding something he didn't have anything to do with but was management's fuckup.

This is the whole story affirmed by my coworkers and him, some of it I saw real time but I'm still on probation, looking for another job. This dev lead guy really liked some of our work for and told us if there's an opportunity he would want us to come with him and keep working together, just the company sucked ass. And I'll gladly do it because he was amazing.

Edit: added some context and grammar

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think it is a common theme where the people in control both want "things to improve" while simultaneously hating any change that might threaten the backward-ass way they like to run things. The more the place is in need of change, usually, the stronger they resist.

My story isn't as extreme, but at one place I worked the owners just burned through amazing managers, always butting head in stuff they barely understood. Ultimately we ended up with someone who didn't like confrontation and who would let the owners do as they wished, which sort of defeated the purpose of this new role.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

i always thought it was peak laziness to basically go through entire work days and stories by just chaining endless meetings. Barely any heavy lifting ever gets done, people just spit just enough nonsense to preface the next meeting. I much prefer small corporations where the product (still) actually matters.

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