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Zionism in action.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de -3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sooo are you one of the people who will then in the same breath deny that this is also the goal of Hamas?

[–] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actually, yes. Throw the word "terrorist" around as much and as ignorantly as you want, but the extremism of groups like Hamas has its roots in the decades of zionism running rampant and killing thousands of their people every year.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep, there it is :D Can you do me a favor please and go back LARPing in /pol/?

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago

No one (sane) is defending the Hamas, merely noting that when your counter terror operation has managed to kill more innocents than the terrorists maybe you should stop and rethink your operation a little bit. If some people break into your house and hold you at gunpoint while they fire a rpg that gets shot down by an active defense system, i don’t think that you’ll be very happy the the governments only response is to blow up your house a half hour after they’ve left.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Clearly both sides want the other wholly and completely gone. That is, the extremist leaders. I'm sure the viewpoints across the general public varies wildly on both sides and is fed by their own internal propaganda.

My question is, why do any of us outside that region care? If you are not from that region, or do not have some kind of ties to that region, then why should anyone care so much what they do to each other? And I don't care about religion. "Oh its a religious area so Christians care or something." That doesn't justify meddling over there.

[–] Rayston@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I care about all the people everywhere at all times.

Peoples humanity and worthiness to continue existing does not decrease in inverse proportion to their proximity to me.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

It's exhausting to be concerned about suffering. It's literally happening everywhere all the time for so many things. There's an endless stream of bad news where people are suffering and those in charge aren't really doing anything at all.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My question is, why do any of us outside that region care?

Hmmm maaaybe it's because of the immeasurable amount of human suffering amongst the civilians in that region? What the fuck kind of question is that??

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine not understanding suffering that isn’t directly impacting your life to such a degree.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Uh huh. So why THIS specific conflict? I never saw this much rage and posting and commentary for other issues of suffering like the Uyhgurs or however it's spelled. And this isn't what about ism. We could bring up what's gone on with South Sudan for a long time as well. Or we can bring up significant local issues for various commenters.

It sure seems people at large cared about Ukraine because they're mostly Caucasian and feel like a "western" country. People mostly care about this Israel Hamas issue it seems for religious reasons or to take a political stance (which is indirectly deeply rooted in religion).

I have empathy and sympathy for many things that dont directly impact me. I don't have to for literally everything. Not being sure if I care about THIS conflict, or being skeptical at the extreme coverage it gets, doesn't mean I'm devoid of give a shit.