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Sorry Python but it is what it is.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

cargo just works, it's great and everyone loves it.

npm has a lot of issues but in general does the job. When docs say do 'npm install X' you do it and it works.

pip is a mess. In my experience doing 'pip install X' will maybe install something but it will not work because some dependencies will be screwed up. Using it to distribute software is pointless.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I use pip extensively and have zero issues.

npm pulls in a million dependencies for even the simplest functionality.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is that really the fault of the package manager or is it of the libraries you decide to use?

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fault of the libraries you decide to use, i.e. any and all node libraries

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

Well if that's the case, can't argue with that lol

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Really the fault of js since its standard library is so lacking (leftpad, anyone?), but js wasn't built to do half the stuff it's being asked to do, anyway.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You’ve never had broken dependencies?

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope. I know mixing pip with python packages installed through your systems package manager can be a problem but that’s why I containerize everything.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I separate everything in virtual environments myself, but in my opinion you shouldn't need to that to simply avoid breaking your system.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It probably works for your own local project. After using it for couple of days to install some 3rd party tool my conclusion is that it has no idea about dependencies. It just downloads some dependencies in some random versions and than it never works. Completely useless.

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

This is clearly a layer 8 issue lmao.