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Do you trust Proton? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I've been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there's nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy's info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

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[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, but I trust audits

https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/protonvpn-clears-its-latest-no-logs-audit/

I do agree they have a big tech feel that I don't like, but everything I've seen indicates they're trustworthy.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trust but verify

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck Reagan

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, didn't even realize Reagan was associated with the phrase

[–] tristar@lemmyfly.org 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he learned it from the Russians

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Attaboy

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I now go with “Never trust, always verify”, which is the tagline for zero trust in infosec.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can't create proton account anonymously very easily. If attempting to create account using for, you're prompted to enter phone number or existing email iirc.

Edit: just tested, existing email is needed. This already tells they do not want people to create accounts in a privacy respecting way even if it's somewhat trivial to bypass if you know how

[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it possible to use a throwaway email, such as tempmail.org?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Tempmail.com and temp-mail.org are blocking tor users. Tested some other random service that works, but proton blocked their mail domains