Condemning violence in revolution is akin to condemning the formation of these countries we have today. Palestinians have exhausted all other options.

[–] GreatWhiteNope@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The formation of these countries we have today is condemnable and it’s exactly what Israel is attempting to do, which is why they must be stopped.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The silly thing is that, while on the surface it looks like a religiously-motivated conflict, at its core it's a socioeconomic one. The massive gap in economic opportunity caused by the Zionist regime's comprehensive repression of Palestinian rights, the displacement of people from their own homes, and the complete segregation of society was bound to lead to conflict with or without religious motivation.

People blaming religion for this issue are the same people blaming religion for the Troubles.

China's case of Xinjiang shows that massive forced social and economic reform can eradicate extremism without launching bullets and missiles at every person of colour who looks at you wrong.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Exactly, people who pearl clutch at the violence see no problem with maintaining the wretched conditions that cause the violence.

[–] fox@unilem.org 2 points 11 months ago

They shot down innocent festival goers. Young people. Killed and raped, and driven around in the back of a truck for display. They even took elderly women hostages.

This is not acceptable, in any sort of way. Never.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago

Gazans have the right to revolution, just as the Americans, French, and Chinese did.

The difference is that those were successful in overthrowing the regime. Even at the time of them happening the established regimes across the world did condemn those, too.

I'm not arguing that the Palestinians should not revolt. However if you do, it helps if you deal a decisive blow. If history shows one thing is is that failed attempts at revolution lead to harsh persecution.

If anything this attempt has strengthened the Israeli goverment, where Israelites were finally fed up with the shenanigans of power concentration of Netanyahu and revolting against him, now everyone falls in line, because of this attack.

I'm not disputing the legality, tactically it's been a huge mistake. And the ramifications are horrendous, but I don't think anybody is surprised by that (I must note that I abjectly oppose those).