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[–] darq@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (17 children)

We are talking about people who have the capital in society to make actual systemic changes to society. Such as restructuring our economy to value lives, wellbeing, and sustainability over profit.

Quite obviously 80% of people do not have that capital.

You are cherrypicking statistics, seemingly to deliberately miss the point.

Global comparisons of income mean exactly nothing to the quality of life of people living within their country.

Even people deemed in that global top 20% are living paycheck-to-paycheck, and are unable to leverage that to make changes.

[–] i_understand@mastodon.social -4 points 11 months ago (16 children)

At the beginning of the Industrial Revolution there were an estimated 200 million people and virtually 100% poverty.

Now there are over 8.5 billion people and yet we've managed to reduce both poverty and hunger to the lowest levels in history. Along with the lowest rates of people dying due to war.

socialism didn't do that.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It sure helped, though.

Probably one of the biggest benefactors.

[–] i_understand@mastodon.social -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Socialism has resulted in the deaths of millions of people through starvation and murder.

There are no redeeming qualities of socialism.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No, that's a complete lie. It has never resulted in the death of anyone, but rather has saved millions of lives and improved their - and our - standards of living.

But then, you don't actually know what socialism is, so you just make up lies for the evil boogyman hiding in your closet.

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