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    [–] Baleine@jlai.lu 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Deb files are debian packages, so if you're not on debian you can't install it

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute

    [–] tslnox@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager... And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn't change, it will install just fine without any work.

    [–] Genericusername@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

    I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn't expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I'm assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    That sounds really cool.

    [–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You could check out NixOS :)

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
    • Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages
    • the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work

    I don't understand why would people not be on debian does not compute

    I don't understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have.

    [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don't use it but it's kinda stupid to question it's relevant qualities considering how much it's brought to the Linux community.

    [–] puppy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Also don't forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat's distros which face some controversy.

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro?

    [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked.

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    They are based on both in that case

    [–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

    Is it using APT? If so, guess what....

    [–] molochthagod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

    Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what's so beautiful about Linux.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

    For the .deb packages, obviously.

    Did you not read the post?

    [–] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically.

    Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian and uses the same package format. Ubuntu is much more popular though and the packages are not completely compatible.

    [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically.

    Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.?

    [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

    … Debian, or one of the many excellent Debian-based distros