passinglurker

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[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, that is what I was saying...

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

One can hope the surviving snw crew get their own ship and show after pike gets the chair. Last thing I want is for them to follow the 1701 for so long that they start refilming TOS

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago

They did it again TOS purists

spoileryou wanted a rubber suit, so they gave you a rubber suit.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe Pike keeps the ship’s environmental settings a little colder than the others, so nobody wants to free the knees

I dunno about nobody considering the recuring background andorians (give me slim blue men in skimpy minidresses you cowards!/s) clearly 23rd century fabric just breathes really well.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

I'm in agreement that we can just have both, but I'm just thinking what's the least confrontational way to get what I want. After all 3rd rule of acquisition "don't pay more for an acquisition than you need to".

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes, I need more ENT! The era had a unique semi-grounded scifi quality to it. But make it an animation so I don't have to hear folks repeat "no more prequels!" and "where's legacy!?" Ad nausium.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I see what you're talking about, and don't want to see them play so fast and loose with the notion as to take old noteworthy's and heroships out of mothballs, triple the volume and call it a "refit" for nostalgia bait. But Trek does offer an interesting notion here that we don't really have in real life in that there are core valuable parts of a ship more important and possibly more enduring than its hull. We don't take reactors out of old aircraft carriers and submarines and drop them in new ships as some sort of legacy so the idea that it could arguably be done in star trek is novel.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Obviously the Neo-Connie space frame is a new build due to its size but I don't see how that stops them from reusing the warp core, warp coils, computer core, etc.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't think that flies here. The Luna class and Neo-Connie have arguably similar internal volume so taking the bits out of a Luna could be enough to drive a Neo-Connie. Going from Intrepid sized to Sovereign sized though is a much bigger jump. Also I don't see where you're getting the word "refit" from in the first place? are you just assuming cause the ship is roughly intrepid shaped?

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (10 children)

a refitted Intrepid-class and outfitted with technology Voyager gathered from her 7-year journey through the Delta Quadrant. It has 29 decks, 800+ crew and 2 schools, compared to Voyager’s 15 decks and 160 crew.

How do you fit 14 extra decks into a refit? with that many decks this ship would be the size of a sovereign class.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago

Again you're moving the goalposts demanding greater and greater explicits not because you'd be convinced but because you'd expect the explicit doesn't explicitly exists. This is a low stakes conversation about a fictional universe intuition reinforced by references is sufficient, and if in subsequent series writers forget these details or go another way well then that's just how the cookie crumbles.

Though I don't know why you don't find this very intuitive the episode Regeneration featured borg drones from the events of First Contact, sure you may be entitled to your wishful thinking but to claim its never alluded to or incredibly hard to believe that first contact one of the more successful startrek films was an influence on enterprise is itself incredibly hard to believe.

As for Dauntless I'd say the screen canon speaks for itself why would I need characters to constantly break "show don't tell" and hold my hand every step of the way?

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That is a strawman argument, I didn't claim this is a different timeline, in fact I claimed just the opposite. Altered is not the same as Alternate. Key events that are remembered and influential are still intact, while superficial details like whether NX-01 was named Dauntless or Enterprise deviate with little consequence.

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