Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

Oh no... Anyway

Lemmy world is turning into Reddit v2 or Twitter v2. I'm happy about my decision to leave that dumpster fire. Let's hope this nonsense helps others to migrate as well.

Wow, I mean all instances are free to what they wanna, but banning a sub seems extreme

.world has already become a shithole echo chamber. Good thing lemmy's technology can not really let it take over the platform as a whole like it did with reddit.

I've been liking .zip so far.

Was there some context or discussion about that over there? If I recall correctly, lemmy.world is hosted in Germany, right? The lawyers there are quite extreme when it comes to cracking down on piracy; is a whole business model.... So maybe .world is just overly cautious

Nothing of value is lost. 😂

This sub just got a new member. Thank miss Streisand :)

Never thought beehaw would end up being more based than lemmy world.

The best part is lemmy.world notified its users of this change on...discord. lol

Great social media site, where you notify end users of major changes on another platform entirely.

Yeah, had to swtich instances because of that.

This is ultimately why I decided to roll my own instance. I'm keeping my backup here though in case I mess something up, but full control is nice to have.

The legal environment around Lemmy is tenuous at best. Content and / or actions that are legal in one nation are illegal in others but Lemmy caches that content on every federated instance with active users.

To illustrate the complexity involved consider a Mexican user on a Lemmy instance located in Germany that visits exploding heads to view Nazi content. Which nations laws are controlling?

What about when an Australian user on a Finnish Lemmy instance who accesses something like fauxbait from lemmynsfw.com? Those images are arguably illegal in Australia but who has liability here? The Australian user? The Finnish Lemmy instance? Lemmynsfw.com?

In both of those scenarios the User is one country with its own set of laws, the Users Host Instance and its content cache are in a 2nd country with a different set of laws, and the instance hosting the content is in 3rd country with yet another set of laws!

It's the same problem with digital piracy, who is legally liable when the law, and remember we don't even know whose laws apply, is breached? The User? Their Host Instance? The Content Host? All of them?

Legal lightening is absolutely going to strike a Lemmy instance soon and no sane instance operator wants to be the lightening rod.

Honestly, I'm ok with it. Piracy shouldn't be something that anyone can see. More something people find after looking for it. Yes there is the con to having less users but the more users we have the more risk we take on.

Thank God I moved to programming.dev recently. I may have to make a burner on dbzero just in case.

The real question in my mind is: how do we ensure the instance this community is on doesn't get shut down? Seems to me like c/piracy itself might be a legal target, and as far as I can tell, none of the instances are big enough to have legal teams to sheild it from legal threats

And this is why my main account is on the piracy instance.

lemmy.world is trash, it's brought in and hosts the worst parts of reddit I was hoping to avoid by moving to lemmy. Wish I could just block that whole instance.

@Madbrad200

Sounds like we're going to need an instance to be hosted outside of the reach of US copywrong law

If Lemmy.world decides to roll advertisements we'll know why at least.

Yay for power-tripping.

I just made an account to discover that we’re blocked. Wtf lol, this is my first post.

aaand a whole new me!

I'm a pirate at heart, yarr ;)