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If @mastodon becomes thread-like, I'll leave social network forever. I'm done with meta wanting to control everything, chiefly the freedom of speech in a network used to communicate. I mean, really? The upsidedown World.

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[–] abobla@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

just go to an instance that doesn't federate with threads.net

You can also block the threads.net instance on the most recent lemmy version (0.19.0)

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

You can’t block Threads users or comments with the Lemmy instance block function, which basically makes the lemmy instance block function practically useless.

[–] abobla@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, maybe this can be suggested as a future update for lemmy

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

It was suggested long ago. This useless bs is what we got instead.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Question:

Is it possible that this happens because your instance has already defederated from threads?

My instance (mander.xyz) has defederated from them and I too can't block threads. (Fun fact: mander has only defederated from 2 instances, threads.net and burggit.moe)

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think you misunderstand: lemmy’s new instance blocking feature that users can use only blocks posts from an instance, not users or their comments from that instance, which is what most people wanted the feature to do: block the toxic jerks from any particular instance along with their posts, comments, etc the same way defederation would. By only blocking their posts but allowing their comments, etc. to come through, the new feature is mostly useless, as it still requires users to be blocked individually.

Since Threads is an instance that has, rather than thousands or tens of thousands of users like a typical lemmy instance, but tens of millions, this makes things even more daunting for users of instances which don’t defederate from Threads.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then use the block user function?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For countless thousands or millions of individual accounts? Are you joking?

Instance blocking, should block the entire instance, users and all. Not just its posts. 

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If your stance is to stop any interactions with people who use Meta products, then you probably need to stop using the internet.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

How much is meta paying you to say that?

[–] hoday_88@mastodon.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@abobla thank you for the update. Where can I block it? Can you help me with it?

[–] abobla@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't know how to do iton mastodon, but I know it's possible on lemmy 0.19 (lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, lemm.ee and others have this version).

I've never blocked an instance though.

edit: grammar

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

There are better arguments for not federating with Meta’s Threads, some of which can be found in !fediverse@lemmy.ml. Firstly, Threads isn’t going to be able to restrict speech on other instances, at least not in any direct fashion. And secondly and more importantly, an argument for “freedom of speech” without qualifications is either naive or disingenuous: Paradox of tolerance

[–] pineapplelover@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Right, that and knowing the long history of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (EEE) ought to be sufficient.

[–] sour@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

@davel

is culture issue

[–] hoday_88@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago

@davel what do you mean about "an argument without qualification"? And what has this to do with what meta is banning?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

What’s threadlike mean?

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a question, forgive my ignorance. Is there a way to determine ownership of an instance beyond the name of the user account that owns it?

What if meta used their massive amounts of data storage to flood the fediverse with meta-owned instances, making it difficult or impossible to determine what they control and what they do not?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Furthermore, greed becomes a factor when you consider someone could sell their instance to a corporation with no one being any the wiser.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This will be an ongoing struggle until capitalism is ended. Westerners think China has a firewall to keep The Truth out, but mostly it’s to keep foreign capitalists out.

[–] Dio@lemy.lol 0 points 9 months ago