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[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Israel: cuts communications

Israel: why would Hamas do this?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the negotiation is by Israel, not by Qatar, Qatar only doing the mediator part. So why would they keep this off the public?

Also why IDF always demand something impossible when they have the power? First they demand the evacuation of 2 million toward south in 24 hours. Now they sabotage the communication, keeping the airstrike, but demand the hostage to be released in just a few hours. They also know there's multiple faction fighting together and might not be cooperative, which is another info that's off-public.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Israel's goal is to kill as many Palestinians as possible while avoiding international consequences.

This is not about national security; it's about revenge.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 9 points 1 year ago

It's all, revenge, show of power, ethnic cleansing, annexation, national security, and Netanyahu's own political career.

[–] Lemmyboi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not revenge but ethinic cleansing

[–] stella@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Por que no los dos?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully now nobody thinks Israel cares about those hostages.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Revenge is more important.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“There will be no pause without the return of hostages and missing persons,” Israel’s defense minister, Yoav Gallant, said in a written statement to The New York Times this week.

Hamas leaders have since claimed that their group does not have control over all of those captives because other Gaza factions, including Palestinian Islamic Jihad, also entered Israel that day and took some hostages of their own.

The issue, they said, was that communications were spotty — the Hamas leaders struggled to make quick, consistent contact between Qatar and Gaza — and worsened when Israel cut telecommunication networks as it launched its ground offensive.

Hamas’s apparent lack of control over all the captives, coupled with the ground invasion, have made it more difficult for the group to round up those slated for release and to deliver them safely to Israel, according to three of the officials with knowledge of the matter.

Israel dispatched David Barnea, the chief of its Mossad intelligence agency, to Qatar to negotiate the hostage deal with Hamas indirectly through Qatari mediators in the days before the ground invasion.

Ron Dermer, a top adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told reporters last week that Israel had twice briefly ceased military operations in some areas in Gaza in order to facilitate the safe evacuation of the hostages released by Hamas.


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