!books@lemmy.world - Discussing books and book-related things.
!comicbooks@lemmy.world - A place to discuss comic books of all types.
!marvelstudios@lemmy.world - LW's home for all things MCU.
While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.
Regarding spoilers; Please put "(Spoilers)" in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers, as we do not currently have a spoiler tag available. If your post contains an image that could be considered a spoiler, please mark the thread as NSFW so the image gets blurred. As far as how long to wait until the post is no longer a spoiler, please just use your best judgement. Everyone has a different idea on this, so we don't want to make any hard limits.
Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread. Most of the Lemmy clients don't support this but we want to get into the habit as clients will be supporting in the future.
Failure to follow these guidelines will result in your post/comment being removed and/or more severe actions. All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. We ask that the users report any comment or post that violates the rules, and to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting.
"Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot."
"I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should Ever be Forgot!"
It is that time of the year again!
.
I try to watch the move annually!
This time with my girlfriend for the first time!
I feel like the movie kind of missed the point of the book.
In what way?
... I'm trying to remember what my gripe was. It's not anarchist enough? Too much vendetta not enough revolution? Book V had a vision for the future, Movie V only had revenge?
Fuck me guess it's time to reread and rewatch and remind myself why I thought that.
I'd love to say that V isn't much of an anarchist because anarchists are supposed to act in solidarity with the people they are hoping to liberate (which includes themselves) and not unilaterally in the way that V does... but then I remember Alexander Berkman assassinating capitalist Henry Clay Frick without bothering to properly understand the position of the strikers Frick was repressing.
I'd say that the "super" genre is utterly incompatible with anarchist thought... the "super" genre is, after all, based on individualist power fantasy - something quite useless to someone viewing power relations through an anarchist lens.
So, there's that... and I lost all sympathy for V when he shoved Evey in a cell. That's some straight-up abusive shit right there.
She did ask to be free /s
Haha ok. Thanks for your explanation regardless.
@elbarto777 I felt the same way as @Xariphon . For me the book is anti fascism so it's a critique of the ideology of fascism but it's also nuanced and critical of aspects of the V character who is quite problematic.
The movie is more about "fascism we don't like" (with clear US political references) and V is made more unambiguously heroic and even romantic, with Evie falling in love with him and the crowds on his side (i.e crypto-democratic leader).
Alan Moore on the film:
[The movie] has been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country. ... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives – which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England.
Hey why not, it's been ages since I saw it and the deeper elements were kind of lost on me back then.
V is also a pretty easy Halloween costume for lazy people like me.
Hmm. Depends probably on do you leave the knives out, have paper/cardboard/plastic knives or real fighter knives with the costume!
An easier Halloween costume is Ghostface. No trousers and a shirt/jacket but a robe.
My friend drew the outline of the knife he uses in the movie in cardboard and I added many layers, getting a nice, thicker cardboard knife!
My friend Anne Kalgesch recently uploaded a film essay on V for Vendetta, specifically on the portrayal of women in the film. It's a really good analysis, and she would welcome more feedback, she's only had 165 views in 2 days.
Checked it out and left a comment.
I have the same tradition since 2017. Absolutely fabulous movie. 😇
Who is your favorite character?
🖤✌🏻
Didn't love it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You forgot this \
You stole @raolraol's arm!
Get 'im!
