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I mean, sure, it's not as population dense as the USA, or Mexico, but Canada is huge, your people are nice, you have some of the best entertainment companies on the planet (namely Cirque du Soleil and Pornhub), your natural resources and attractions are unbelievable and your actors are the best (especially the BSG/Chronicles of Riddick cast).

And yet, as an Italian with an international perspective (lived abroad for the last 16 years and visited the USA and South America repeatedly), I have been not "Canada-aware" for most of my life.

I get it that you are not boasting like your neighbors (and that alone makes you better than them imho), but how come that I was left to realize only today that the Manitoba flour I used to make pizza all my life takes its name from one of your provinces, while I know about all the shitty pizzas the US made up in a century.

Same thing goes for Latin American countries, even the ones I never visited, like Mexico or Argentina.

I shall visit soon and I hope you can take the chance to teach me more in the meanwhile.

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[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

It’s hard to be aware when most everything in Canada has basically been sold to the US by the greedy. I mean the last shred of our heritage is the French on the packaging. If it weren’t for that, you could never tell between products from either nation.

Hockey? We have like 3 teams left in the NHL. Superman? He’s American now. Alaska, which is the landing point for a staggering amount of goods coming into Canada, American now too. Tim Hortons? American.

We sold our heritage long ago. You can say whatever you want to farm karma but the sad reality is we basically are the 51st state. And as mad as Canadians get hearing that, especially now (I loath Trump and have always had a tenuous opinion of the US), it’s the sad truth.

And if you’re hoping for Carney to make this place great, he won’t. The whole “we are building a better world” is the biggest lie told because people have long realized you die. Legacy or not. No one wants to spends their lives in agony so three generations down will get it easy. That’s a hackneyed trope for a sci fi movie, nothing more.

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Just remember that it was a Canadian who invented the Hawaiian pizza. So, sorry about that.

(for the record, I like Hawaiian pizza)

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never tried hawaiian pizza, mostly because I hate soggy pizza. I guess it is not meant to be eaten on a Neapolitan style base, but then again, I am not interested.

I am from Rome, where we have a pizza that would be possible not to get soggy when putting pineapple on it, but it is a curse from God, rather than real pizza.

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[–] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey hey pineapple is officially a good pairing with cheese. Afaik the mozzarella foundation (??) recommends it specifically as a good flavour combination. No need to apologise bud.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

As I stated in another comment, the reason for it being a possibly bad pizza has nothing to do with flavor, but "texture".

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ha! I love bringing up Hawaiian-style pizza.

Canadians also invented the Football, Basketball, Baseball (1838), and the absolute most deadly 'modern' sport there is: Lacrosse, a 'gentrified' form of the most brutal aboriginal sporting action seen since Pokolpok . Lacrosse is honestly just handball with quarterstaves.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

you're the goddamn ambassador with that username, this is the dude!

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

That just makes me like Canada even more. Hawaiian Pizza, 90% of the shows on Nickelodeon I grew up watching, hella comedians, hella musicians... Shit I just realized even my favorite furries are Canadian.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I especially love Boston Pizza’s Hawaiian pizza with a sweet chilli drizzle on top. I can’t remember the name.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was ambivalent, but now I support invasion. Not really, it’s just fun to hate on pineapple on pizza.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

If the US takes over, it becomes their invention. It's like our diamond shield. Like, whoever smelt it, dealt it.

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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think it has to do with an old saying.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick"

Generally we as Canadians on the international level speak softly, while the US speaks very loudly. It is of no shock to me that you only remember us when we have to bring out the stick because we aren't as "interesting" to watch as the US is.

We may have Cirque du Soleil but everyone knows the real circus is US politics, and it is hard to compete on the world stage with the best of the best. haha

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[–] limitedduck@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Happy to hear you're thinking of us! I think the average Canadian thinks more about our country's international reputation than mindshare. Personally, it doesn't bother me hearing that someone in another country doesn't think about us very often, but it does make me happy to hear that when you do it's positively. Please do visit!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Claiming the bottom spot for the 35th year in a row was the US, whom researchers described as “firmly not giving a shit about what anyone thinks to a detrimental extreme”.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be honest I never knew we shipped our flour that far. (I live in Manitoba)

I think for the most part we realize that we are not perfect by any stretch, and instead of bragging about what we do or don't have, many of us would prefer to just try our best to make our corner of the planet as nice as we can. We are, after all, made up of people from all over the world and I think that's one of our greatest strengths.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Ney, Manitoba, prairie flour is shipped all over the world. It was one of the first commodities from Canada shipped to the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war. I remember the hype that was caused when we started shipping it. You young-uns would be a lot better off if you read a bit more of your history than just about oil and gas fields. You have much more to offer the world than these.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think it is not always produced in Manitoba, but it is the name of the kind of wheat flour that is best for pizza.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ya, I would assume that although the name originated from here, it's grown throughout the prairies and probably the states as well.

Still interesting to know that our name is attached to it though. I've always thought that "manitoba flour" was just regular flour that was local.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is a Canadian hybrid wheat developed specifically to grow in the prairies, Completely developed in Canada by Canadian agriculturalists. I learned that way back in elementary school. That was way back when the Canadian teachers actually knew something about Canada.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I probably learned that as well but just don't remember it. I do know we've developed a lot of different hybrids from the Morden research station over the years. (I used to live across the street from there, years back.)

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[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think your experience is unique - I think because the U.S. has been so dominant economically, culturally, and certainly militarily, much of the world overlooks us. It's not in our national character to be boastful, we just get things done - but never mistake our quiet nature for meekness. We're fiercely proud of our country and our accomplishments - and of being very unlike our neighbors to the south.

You should definitely come visit if you get the chance, there's a lot to see, and a nation of friendly people to help you enjoy it. Ciao!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sometimes we Canadians overlook ourselves, too...

Just as one example: the National Film Board making and promoting Canadian films just seem like some art-school hobbyists in comparison to the USA. You see all the big-name Canadian actors ending up in Hollywood blockbuster movies.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. I had a friend (f*ck cancer) who was a huge movie buff, never missed TIFF, but he refused to watch Canadian-made movies. His argument was that he had been disappointed by them too many times, but I pointed out that Hollywood had disappointed him way more often lol. I finally got him to watch some, but he was a stubborn bastard about it. Miss ya, Fred.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I preferred being out of sight out of mind actually, especially the lack of tourists. Hell is other people.

When I visited Scotland, I felt the city core of Edinburgh wasn't for the locals anymore and it turned me off tourist reliant locations entirely for context.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You can do tourism wrong (as Italian cities do), and do it right, like Amsterdam started to do now. I was there in April last year and I was able to take pictures of the canals with no one in them but me effortlessly. They literally paid ads to tell British low cost flight tourists not to come visit.

It's called self-care.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd agree, with my limited experience anyways. I've only left Canada once and it was a trip to Scotland, Netherlands, Austria, Czech Republic.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All in one trip? That sounds like a fantastic holiday!

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait … did you just say that all the tourists in Edinburgh spoiled it for … you, as a tourist?

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No, more like what tourism did to Edinburgh.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I like travelling, but I'm occasionally very aware at how Touristy I am. Seeing other places after growing up bare-floor poor is just such an experience that I want to see everything while I can -- and that makes me rushed, hyper-focused, interested in the marquee landmark places, etc. SUCH a tourist.

If we get more travel to new places - all our plans are for a second, longer visit to the favourites - then I hope I can be relaxed and less likely to forget my manners or to act stressed based on all this goal-focused travel.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Obviously not a scifi fan. So much filmed there most significantly various stargates.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

The X-files series, shot in Canada.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

The Canadian film industry is so huge that a great majority of 'Hollywood' films have at least part of the movie shot in Canada. Night at the Museum (all of them) was a big one that very few people realize was shot in Canada. I Robot, also parts of it shot here. The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus. Chronicles of Riddick (all of them) was shot in Canada. The list goes on and on and on. The reason why so few Canadians recognize Canadian cities and settings in the American movies is that the sets are aways 'Americanized' - American flags, American money, American license plates, American road signs, American brands, American store branding, American iconography. Even if you knew it was shot in Canada, you would hardly recognize it as Canadian. The sets are purposely designed to look American. Even when it is supposed to be a Canadian city in the movie.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Night at the Museum (all of them) was a big one that very few people realize was shot in Canada.

That just brought back a memory for me. I remember a career day or something like that at school and one of my classmates brought his aunt who worked on that movie. She showed us some early pre-sfx footage she had of the t-rex chase where it was just a tennis ball on a stick. Definitely not something that could happen today, but that was before every kid had a camera on them at all times.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The primate in that movie was every bit as obnoxious in real life as it was in the movie. The handlers had their hands full with that one. Lots of work for the costumer who had to do the laundry.

But that tennis ball on a stick was actually part of the stock publicity footage. I remember viewing it as well.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This would've been the (school)year before the movie came out, 2005/6. I suppose it's possible it was publicly available at the time. It doesn't really matter, it was just a cool memory from decades ago. I hope it didn't come across as a classic "my uncle works at Nintendo" kind of comment.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

To be clear, I didn't say 'publicly available', I said 'stock publicity footage'. It gets distributed to various industry connections, footage that might go into movie trailers, footage that might be used for 'behind the scenes' footage on the DVD. No worries about the "come across as a classic “my uncle works at Nintendo” kind of comment." Classic or not, my daughter actually DID work as a truck costumer on that movie. I believe she is credited in the IMDB for that movie.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The Canadian film industry is so huge that a great majority of 'Hollywood' films have at least part of the movie shot in Canada

One historic district in Winnipeg regularly stands in for pre-fire era Chicago.

And various other parts of the city can easily act like many mid-west American cities.

One of the malls here hosts the shooting of a hallmark channel Christmas movie almost every summer.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a Stargate one. I know a few sci-fi movie were shot in notable Canadian cities, such as Chronicle in Vancouver, but I never really recognized Canada in a sci-fi film, no.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Canadians that live in Vancouver and Toronto do this a lot for various films set in "American City, USA":

Di Caprio playing Rick Dalton points at out of frame TV

[–] LycanGalen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Alberta has a thriving film industry, too. Nearly any Western, or show that's written for Texas and vicinity will have scenes shot in Alberta. The Last of Us was shot in Calgary, Edmonton, and Canmore along with various "wilderness" locations. The giraffes in the series are Calgary Zoo residents.

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[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

And you forgot to mention, we are a lot SMARTER than the Americans.

It s true, Americans have hugged the limelight for 70 years, always, ahem, Trumping the news. No matter how loud we shout, it is always the American voice that is heard in Europe. But really, the reason lies not just in America's behavior, or even Canada's, but in the complete disinterest of Europeans in even bothering to learn anything about Canada, the assumption in Europe being that we are just 'not significant' compared to the US. Even though we did a lot more to defend Europe in the two Great Wars than America did. We were the ones that developed the strategies for the new technological warfare (Vimy Ridge, for example), the Americans simply copied them. It's just that the Americans took all the claim.

[–] jszym@cosocial.ca 3 points 1 week ago

@biofaust Ok, the gig is up, which one of us Canadians wrote this. /s

As a second-generation Italian immigrant to Canada, Canada is pretty great. (Italy is pretty great too).

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