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Pierre Poilievre’s next target: your rights (youtu.be)
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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Canadian media is busy telling you the most important issue in politics this week is two low-level LPC staffers making a mistake.

But meanwhile, our fundamental rights are under attack. Ostensibly to enact some American-made crime policy that caused widespread harm there and is broadly understood to be a failure.

This is important, and it affects each and every one of you reading this. Your rights are at stake.

Get out there and vote. If you can’t stomach strategic voting to cross party lines, or even if you dislike the choices available at the local or leadership level — go and vote regardless. When Canadians reject this evil and send PP and his MAGA goons to the dumpster, know that you were an active participant in the rejection.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm Canadian and have lived here for more than 20 years. Poilievre is threatening to deport people like me for criticising Israel, and threatening to strip rights from my LGBTQ+ friends and family. We are all Canadian, and pleased to be Canadian, yet this man threatens to turn the state against us just as Trump is doing in the USA. Everyone needs to get out and vote to keep him away from power, or it could very well be the end of democratic Canada as we know it, and a personal disaster for many Canadian families.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Well said. With people like you out there helping to stop it, we will dump him and his maga ideology in the trash where it belongs

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

My vote is already on its way. If anyone needs a voting kit you can go to https://elections.ca/ and get one. Takes less than 15 minutes from your couch. Deadline is April 22 but I'd recommend ASAP.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next? When was he not targeting them?

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe this is the first instance where PP been open about using his weapon against our fundamental rights.

I mean yes we’ve long suspected it would be this way, and he’s hinted at it before.

But this is no time to be smug. Our rights are under attack, and most Canadians don’t even understand it’s happening. So I challenge you to change the attitude, and try to reach out to people who don’t understand section 33 and explain to them what’s at stake and why they must vote to stop this.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't being smug and you are tone policing.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s fair. I inferred a smug tone from it but text is a hard medium to convey or receive tone.

What I thought I recognized in your comment was an attitude I’ve participated in for at least a decade. Oh, I’m so smart, I’ll make some quip here to show that I’m way ahead of the curve here and you lot are just catching up. Look at me here on the sidelines, I’m so cool unlike you naive suckers trying to make a difference.

But I don’t know that was your attitude. If it helps, consider that I was speaking to my past self and not you.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My comment was a mark born of confusion because if you have been paying attention he has been attacking our rights since he was Harper's yap dog.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate? I’ll admit I was living abroad during the Harper years, and I’m unfamiliar with any pledges to override our charter rights before. My understanding is that this type of open commitment to take away our rights is entirely new behaviour at the federal level.

The difference between “I don’t like their policy” and “these people will use section 33 to negate our fundamental rights” is a significant difference to me.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Harper worked to erode a lot of rights. You are correct that they never said it this openly, but a lot of their "tough on crime" or "anti-terroism" type policies always sought to limit freedoms and rights.

Conservatives have also been trying to repeal things like Marijuana legalization and gay marriage. One of Harper's slogans was "you won't recognize Canada when I'm done".

One of the things that stands out that wasn't even near the worst that they did; was the "barbaric practices hotline". Which was meant to harras muslim and other non christians (or non whites but that was never proven IIRC).

Yeah, they've been attacking our rights and freedoms for decades.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Gay marriage may be a good example of your argument, because I’m not sure how they’d be able to accomplish repealing that in law without using section 33.

But while things like anti-terrorism or “tough on crime” were harmful, if section 33 is not employed then we still have charter rights and these things can be challenged and overturned in the court system.

Which still sucks, a lot. But having PP saying that they’d jump to using the big stick of notwithstanding to support a bullshit American policy that failed there is a significant step worse. Because now we know for certain that they will use this stick, and no courts or opposition can stop them if they get power.

This is why I get prickly at the idea of people saying this is no big deal, they always do this. Which is what I inferred from your original comment, apparently falsely. Because this is big and new and will enable much more harm in a way that will be unstoppable.

So we must act with urgency to stop them before it can start. It was already important but now its a crisis — and yet our newsmedia focuses on inane stuff because talking about policies only policy nerds care about doesn’t get clicks and views.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

It's just insane that he can say these things out loud during a rally as his prime talking point, and people actually support his view.

Denying rights for the sake of what? Perceived safety? This is literally how so many of the greatest trageties happened in this world, including this country.

I'm a proud Canadian, but I am also hyper-aware of the fact that my own countrymen were rounded up, had their property confiscated, and put into detention centers less than a century ago for the sake of "safety". That was the Japanese during WWII. Happened here and in the US, despite many of them volunteering to fight the Nazis the moment Canada entered the war. Some even managed to get deployed to Europe before their family members got locked up "just in case" some of them would side with Japan.

Every time someone mentions the infringement or revocation of rights, I'm reminded of that time thousands of completely innocent people got treated as cattle because of their appearances. This can happen to any group, for any reason the moment we allow the government to hold such power against us.

Would Conservative voters like it if PP got voted in and implemented such laws, then a few elections down the line, voting Conservative in the past is enough to get you locked up? Because this is exactly the sort of powers you are giving the government by agreeing with such policies. Hell, for voting for PP in general when he's so openly pushing for such laws.

I'm not for single issue voting, but I do think when someone has this bad of an idea, that single issue should disqualify someone from getting people's votes.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

The making of America.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

CANADA DOESN'T NEED A SMALL pp

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Abrego Garcia was illegally abducted and wrongfully deported to El Salvador. Who knows what horrors that man is enduring?? This is the kind of injustice that is supposed to be protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights. Right? Right?? Well, not according to PP. He plans to strip Canadians of their rights. And, like Trump, he’s coming right out and announcing it. FFS get out and vote!!!