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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 139 points 1 day ago

The language used is super interesting. "Defying Elon Musk"

Defying. A terrifying word, yet appropriate.

Musk has no position in the Wisconsin state government. He's not a constituent. You shouldn't be able to "defy" him because he has no position of authority.

Yet they used the word "defying" and it's terrifyingly the correct word.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 244 points 1 day ago (6 children)

People who got money to vote should be named and shamed.

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 124 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it should be illegal. that's bribery

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's already illegal. Unless the rich do it, of course.

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pisses me off they get no accountability. when if you or I did it we would be locked up imminently.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We face legal justice. They face vigilante justice.

All we need is someone willing to pull the trigger and skilled enough to hit their target.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And willing to die in prison or be executed. That makes the numbers much smaller.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Unless I have the law wrong, he skirted the law. He didn't pay anyone to vote (although he originally said he was), he technically only paid them to sign a petition. The law afaik only says you can't pay people to vote (regardless of who, in Wisconsin you straight up cannot pay people to vote at all), you can pay them to sign a petition.

However I would argue that by first announcing that the money would go only to people who voted and then subtly changing it later is still totally a form of bribery. People absolutely voted for a chance at that money because of his original statement and didn't know it changed. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he'll be 100% fine because of technicalities (aka he's rich as shit and is completely untouchable)

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 3 points 16 hours ago

He paid people to vote, that's just very clearly what he did.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You're making a legal claim, and that claim that should be examined closely in court to establish its veracity. For example, I disagree with your analysis. I think that everyone understands what's actually being offered: money for a vote. I think that a jury could convict, and that there is probable cause to arrest and charge right now.

And the reasoning is quite simple, right? You want to give money for the vote but you know that would be illegal so instead you say something that's almost the same as the vote and then wink a few times. Everyone has communicated clearly. Everyone knows exactly what they're supposed to do, and why. Just because you wrote down some words cleverly on paper doesn't change the causes or effects.

But that's my opinion, and I'm not a judge in that state. Neither are you. Neither are any of us here in the comment section. That's why it ought to go before a judge in that state.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Well you can read it here, the Wisconsin Supreme Court's four liberal and three conservative justices unanimously declined to hear the case, without elaborating further.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It was a pledge to vote, not legally binding. A lot of desperate people these days, and I can't say I wouldn't try to scam elon out of a million bucks if given the opportunity. "Sure sure, I'll totally vote how you want Mr Musky sir. Make sure you spell my name right on the check now."

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah my internet history alone would eliminate me from that running.

The winners are "pre selected". Thats how his bullshit workaround works. Its been admitted. But for the uninformed, it sounds like a lottery.

It isnt.

even if a communist or anarchist or whatever tried to play the game and if it were a true lottery, you would be committing a far worse disservice by keeping quiet at this point.

Stay quiet and maybe get a million. Its the democrat way if you look at our current dem politicians... do you really want to be like them right now?

[–] MordercaSkurwysyn@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Every lottery run by private business is not a lottery but transfer of money from gullible to someone's friends and family.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Even so, the point of such laws is to be as impartial as possible. That's not possible once people start accepting stuff. Doesn't matter if they can still technically not vote.

It's not because it's guaranteed to sway votes, but because it could.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I almost guarantee he canceled those checks the second she won.

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some of those people probably took the money and voted Democrat anyway.

If someone was trying to bride me for a vote I'd take their money and still vote for whoever I wanted.

What's he going to do? Look over my shoulder and verify who I voted for?

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still, it probably has a chilling ef fect. Voting Dems becomes like a secret you have to keep rather than something you should shout from the roofs - less likely to make that post on social media, put up a sticker or a sign, tell your friend and family etc.

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[–] Helvetica@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago

Eat shit Musk.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago

M.U.S.K. (Make United States Kneel). How one South African tried to topple the american superpower.

[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

This is the best news in 7 months

[–] ThraawnSolo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 23 hours ago

Hell yeah!!! Fuck you!

[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago

I hope elon cries tonight, and hates its life now

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

A Mandate to tell Elon to eat shit.

[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago

Still 45% too many idiots

Jesus. Turns out bribery has a cost o.o

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 103 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eat Shit Elon Wasted 20 million for nothing.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If we would assume that musk's wealth is $400,000 then spending $20m is just $20.

To us this is massive amount for him it is $20.

And he bought US president for just $300.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If we would assume that musk’s wealth is $400,000

Hopefully with Tesla stock crashing, this can be a reality

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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fine, he lost twenty bucks then, Im thrilled.

I hope the anxiety causes him to smoke his entire ketamine stash in one sitting.

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[–] oxysis@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No one wants Elons Sieg heil shit.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Empire was fought to a standstill, and Lady Crawford Organa took her seat on the high judicial council.

Or maybe it's just the judicial council. I dunno. I'm high.

But well done Wisconsin - the force was fucking with you today!

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[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's small, but this is definitely a win worth celebrating.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 27 points 1 day ago

For Wisconsin itself, it's huge. It keeps breathing room available at the state level.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Wait till we learn how much the Luigi trial jurors are paid to hang him.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Prediction: Trump will come out saying that Cory Booker’s record-breaking speech was a smokescreen to distract from the fact that George Soros was stealing votes in this election.

I wish I wasn’t serious.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Elon you can shove it where the sun don’t shine.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago

Another bad investment by the Muskrat.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago

Ah thank goodness!

[–] match@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i sure hope they take up the case on Musk's voter bribes

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[–] SupaTuba@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I genuinely believe this was his way of getting involved in a "lower stakes" election, performing the same bribery as he did in the federal election, normalizing it, and using the Democrats victory as "proof" that he couldn't have cheated the federal election.

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