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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

What a cursed timeline this is

[–] corstian@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Am I the only one thinking these trust tokens are not going to prevent bots from scraping websites?

Eventually, somewhere, someone will just develop the infrastructure to work their way around this, right?

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Per the article, this is already being integrated into Chromium as we speak, as in days ago: https://github.com/chromium/chromium/commit/6f47a22906b2899412e79a2727355efa9cc8f5bd

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Maybe we should create another internet?

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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Google engineers need to fuck off.

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Google ~~engineers~~ needs to fuck off.

Fixed that for you

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[–] willy096@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Sometimes it is unbelievable. They want to make the Internet their own, following their model... luckily there will always be people fighting to keep the Internet free, where anyone can decide, in this case, whether to swallow ads or not

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

imagine working on shit like this. like wouldn't that make your life worse as well? how fucking malignant

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Back when Threads got released someone told me on Lemmy that Meta will not pull an EEE on ActivotyPub because something something antitrust Microsoft long ago millions of dollars.

How is Manifestv3 different?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Forced to implement is the wrong term - they were tasked with designing it. They can't just swap one person out for another - losing the lead dev or designer would be delay or kill the effort

They could've pushed back - software ethics is a required course for very good reason - but it's easy to never ask if you should do something and skip straight to how. It gets easier to skip that piece every time, and the company isn't going to respect it - we need outside pressure so they can point to us and say "this will have repercussions"

They don't deserve death threats, but trashing everything they push on GitHub is fair. Measured steady pressure - save the most extreme stuff for upper management and shareholders

For the engineers you have to make them understand they did bad and they should feel bad, they need to feel that their peers have lost respect for them, not that this is the public lashing out

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[–] zerkrazus@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Yes because that's beneficial to society and definitely not solely for the purpose of making the company and their executives richer.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really need to ween myself off the Internet so that, once it becomes an unusable hellhole in the next 20 years or so, I'll be able to give it up entirely and move on to better things.

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[–] faintedheart@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will use firefox until it gets broken into pieces. I would rather stop using the internet other than for necessary situations.

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[–] Oka@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's NOT the engineers. It's the executives and corporate management that decides that. The engineers just get paid to implement it.

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[–] Alperto@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Related: https://lemmy.world/post/2235459

So, we will be forced to see ads, while they can’t yet control who’s publishing those ads. I wonder why Google (and any other ad company) hasn’t been sued yet for showing and infecting malware into the people who click on their ads. Maybe is not that critical or easy for a domestic user, but corporations or governments?

And it’s not because it’s impossible to verify malware before accepting their ads, it’s because THEY DONT CARE. If they can detect music on videos for copyright claims, they can analyze everything, they can also verify publishers. And if they can’t with an algorithm, they should use humans to manually verify publishers.

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