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    [–] RushJet1@lemmy.world 28 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    Proton covers most games that I play, only a couple exceptions involving heavy handed anti-cheat stuff like League of Legends has now. For non-gaming Windows stuff that doesn't work in Linux I would guess that a virtual machine might work.

    [–] _____@lemm.ee 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Based Linux wont run riot games

    [–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Is that a bad thing?

    Dont get me wrong, I love the IP for League, but the I would never reccomend the game to anyone.

    [–] Konstant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

    That's why it is based.

    [–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    league of legends used to work on linux. they removed the compatibility, explicitly.

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    They're just trying to match the toxicity of their players.

    can't be done, but they're making an admirable go of it.

    [–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    With the most braindead reason,

    There are barely any Linux users...

    Riot... I quit the game because I didn't want to bother with proton and get mad when it goes wrong. And I knew kernel anti cheat would come. And all the Linux fans who are addicted enough are running the game on windows specifically. I literally have a friend with a windows VM with graphic card passthrough to play league of legends... That guy gets counted as a windows User....

    Fucking idiot create the most toxic environment for Linux users and then say they don't attempt to support Linux because the Linux users didn't bother to fight their shit enough in a detectable way.

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    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Some would say that League not working with proton is a blessing.

    [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

    Because it is.

    Same goes for Valorant, I hear.

    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Playing Valorant is like opening port 22 and having "password" as your root password.

    [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago

    Not to mention the backdoor it opens into your soul, for the toxic commumity to pour their verbal detritus into.

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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 35 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    The windows user brain cannot comprehend actually enjoying to use a computer.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    It is funny to watch old Windows admins bring all sorts of bad habits to Linux

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    [–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    yeah this was the thing.

    it's not even about whether linux is ready. windows got sloppy drunk and rode its motorcycle into a brick wall. it's linux or nothing now.

    [–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
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    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    Sadly I'm still not sure if it is ready. I installed Mint to a couple systems this year and am really disappointed at how much tinkering and troubleshooting I have had to do. Like I had to order a specific wifi card because almost nobody makes linux compatible wifi usb adapters. My brand new computer couldn't connect to the internet despite me already having an expensive wifi dongle.

    The linux community will do anything besides improve the usability of their technology in their quest to get people to use their inferior technology.

    Post less memes, make an OS that is stable, has a navicable UI, and runs the things people want to run.

    [–] curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net 0 points 48 minutes ago

    Crazy how different our experiences have been. Over the last decade I've hopped from Ubuntu to Mint, Debian, Fedora, Nobara, and currently on Bazzite. Never had an issue connecting to the internet. (shrugs)

    [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm running a homelab with tons of CLI Ubuntu and whatnot, but I'm fine with Windows and Mac for desktop laptop, so I've never tried gnome or anything.. I reflect on the last time I saw gui Linux... Creepy basement of dude we called Crazy Eyes around the neighborhood, around 2006, trying to convince us of the future.

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    [–] WASTECH@lemmy.world 78 points 6 hours ago (15 children)

    I hate to be one of the “Linux isn’t ready” people, but I have to agree. I love Linux and have been using it for the last 15 years. I work in IT and am a Windows and Linux sysadmin. My wife wanted to build a new gaming PC and I convinced her to go with Linux since she really only wanted it for single player games. Brand new build, first time installing an OS (chose Bazzite since it was supposed to be the gaming distro that “just works”). First thing I did was install a few apps from the built in App Store and none of them would launch. Clicking “Launch” from the GUI app installer did nothing, and they didn’t show up in the application launcher either. I spent several hours trying to figure out what was wrong before giving up and opening an issue on GitHub. It was an upstream issue that they fixed with an update.

    When I had these issues, the first thing my wife suggested was installing Windows because she was afraid she may run into more issues later on and it “just works”. If I had never used Linux and didn’t work in IT and decided to give it a try because all the cool people on Lemmy said it was ready for prime time, and this was the first issue I ran into, I would go back to Windows and this would sour my view of Linux for years to come.

    I still love Linux and will continue to recommend moving away from Windows to my friends, but basic stuff like this makes it really hard to recommend.

    Alright, I have shared my unpopular opinions on Lemmy, I’m ready for my downvotes.

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

    Windows is just more familiar. It definitely has problems just like this all the time. There's a reason most companies have to have a test environment to try out every update to make sure it doesn't break everything.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    I've been using Linux for over thirty years and the nice looking App Stores that have appeared those last few years have always been shit and have always been mostly broken in various ways. I don't know why.

    On the other hand, the ugly frontends to the package manager just work.

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    [–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

    I run Linux daily, Linux isn't ready, its really not much of a debate. If the average person can't operate it efficiently then the average person will just stick to mac or windows.

    I'll admit it is closer than it has ever been thanks to compatibility layers like proton but the average user still can't figure it out so it still has a way to go.

    [–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 5 hours ago

    The average person can't use Mac or Windows efficiently either lol

    [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago

    Honestly, Windows isn't ready for the desktop, either, it's just not ready in a different way that most people are familiar with.

    Things like an OS update breaking the system should be rare, not so common that people are barely surprised when it happens to them. In a unified system developed as one integral product by one company there should be one config UI, not at least three (one of which is essentially undocumented). "Use third-party software to disable core features of the OS" shouldn't be sensible advice.

    Windows is horribly janky, it's just common enough that people accept that jank as an unavoidable part of using a computer.

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    the average user clicks on the chrome icon to open the internet and goes to gmail.com.

    you can do all that in linux.

    [–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

    Until everything breaks because the average user hasn't bothered updating.

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    [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 6 hours ago

    Mum wouldn't even notice as long as the wallpaper is the same

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 160 points 8 hours ago (44 children)

    99% of people want a drop-in replacement for Windows that will install and run every possible Windows-compatible application, game and device without them having to make any extra effort or learn anything new. Basically Windows but free (in all senses).

    Any even slightly subtle difference or incompatibility and they'll balk. Linux can never be that, and Microsoft will keep the goalposts moving anyway to be sure of it.

    Sure, a lot more works and is more user friendly than 15 years ago, but most people won't make the time to sit down and deal with something new unless it's forced on them... which is what Microsoft are doing with Win11.

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    [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

    It's ready enough, but at the same time not ready. It could be better

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