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U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for "reclaiming" the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama's military and, absent that, possible war.

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[–] Mr_Crash_Davis@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What did we hear from Trumpers last year, that he was the candidate for peace or some such shit?

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 55 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They meant a candidate for 'piece.' A piece of this country, a piece of that country.

[–] Mr_Crash_Davis@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Ah, my mistake lol.

[–] lostlittletimeonthis@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

He was angling for the Nobel peace prize in Ukraine but I guess he figured out it was too hard

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[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 day ago

I miss when I would wake up and check the news and nothing particularly crazy was going on. Like you would click on the TV and they are talking about a zoo that recently got a baby giraffe or something.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 46 points 23 hours ago

then-President Jimmy Carter transferred sovereignty to Panama in the late 1970s.

We're literally just invading another country to take their property. Which to be fair IS a long rich American tradition, but gawdamnit it has to stop.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Will this make eggs cheaper?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 36 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

No, but it will severely disrupt golabl trade and make everything more expensive so you don't think about eggs anymore.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Will that make the stock market cheaper? I have some recipes that use stock.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're not supposed to eat the stock.

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[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 20 hours ago

… then Profit?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 54 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He wants to be a strongman and he realizes peoples' impression of him is nearly as small as his penis.

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[–] Plum@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

Papa Putin says so.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Because you can’t really invade a place full of white people like Greenland or Canada. Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay with that. On the other hand, a country full of poor, brown people that have only ever been fucked over by America? Well shit, we can’t wait to bomb them! George Carlin explained it, America loves bombing brown people. Anyone in the US military with the slightest amount of backbone will not follow these illegal orders. See the Nuremberg Trials if you’re not sure what an illegal order looks like. They aren’t even trying with a WMD hoax, this is just an illegal invasion.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay

Given the number of diehard trump fans who wish harm to other members of the US and agitate for an internal war, I doubt this is true for the majority of them.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You may be right. When logic and reason are your enemy, no one will be able to guess your next move (apparently kicking self in nuts repeatedly).

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[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Give Fox News 6 months of their two minutes hate bullshit and Trumpers will be frothing at the mouth for Canadian blood. Americans have already proven that we'll follow a blatant liar into war if the propaganda sets the tone for it.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

This is sadly true.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And then in 10 years everyone gets to pretend that they were 'against it the whole time' like they did with the Iraq War.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I entirely agree we shouldn't do it, but I don't believe it would necessarily be an illegal order to follow.

Invading a sovereign country for overtly offensive reasons isn't against any particular military law, it's just shitty.

The president doesn't have the power to declare war, only to do everything involved in a war, but I don't think that would actually make any of the orders illegal, unless they were to explicitly do some war crimes or some such.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I get what you’re saying, though maybe when America becomes the new nazis, we can have a Nuremberg Trial 2.0 and set some new precedents!

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Putin knows that one of the quickest ways to destroy the US is if the rest of western civilization abandons it. Russia saw firsthand how quickly nearly the entire world joined in to sanction and abandon them when they invaded Ukraine with that bullshit story. The Panama shit is an even worse excuse, almost guaranteed to turn the western world fully against the US.

However, it's also physically separated enough from the US that Americans at home that don't pay attention won't be directly affected to turn against it with retaliation, the Republican base is racist and narcissistic enough to back it seriously, and with a large enough power imbalance so unlike Ukraine there's no chance of a prolonged conflict.

The infrastructure isn't in place yet for them to just do whatever they want and arrest every protester like Russia does, so they do have to still take that into account, Panama is remote and unknown to a large portion of the population sadly. But the building of Panama Canal is something that many learned about in school as a pivotal historical infrastructure project. Something still in use today and referenced in the news even though they may not know where it is. For the America is Best narcissist, taking back what "we" built is an admirable goal.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 19 hours ago

My theory:

Panama controls a major trade route and charges shitloads of money for each ship that passes.

Same reason for Canada. The North-West Passage is melting and will be open year round in the not too distant future.

The same makes sense for Greenland if you consider Russia as a trade partner with lots of raw metals. Plus Greenland itself may have oil. Again, this when the ice melts completely.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 7 points 22 hours ago

The lake that feeds it is not recharging fast enough so they’re limiting passage of ships and making them take longer and more dangerous routes. So he’s probably planning to commit ecocide on the lake for the handful of years it can sustain the canal at max capacity but long enough to stymie other routes being planned or built.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could totally see this going sideways because they removed quality leadership, engineers, and soldiers via racism.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I'm sure the political party that rushed the country into a war over an obvious lie and then told soldiers they'd just have to deal with their Humvees not having any armor for a few months while they were being ordering to patrol around the IED capitol of the world will feel just awful about it for as long as they're on camera

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago

Fuck Trump. I can’t believe the shit this useless rapist is putting the world through. He needs to eat dirt.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

The title is wildly over hyping this news. He said to plan multiple strategies, not to gear up for an invasion. Of course the military is gonna plan a war scenario. This is not the frightening headline its made out to be, shock the military plans stupid ways to put boots on the ground, the military LOVES to plan wars. Click baity for sure!

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

-How full of explosives should we make the canal?

-Yes.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Wow. Really? Like really really?

We're now gonna massacre a bunch of Panamanians for a shipping canal? Fuck.

Well, now that they clearly have great OPSEC, I hope Panama sabotages the hell out of it.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I think Panama did say they'd destroy the canal before they'd allow it to be taken. I took a cursory look for that tidbit, but the news feeds about the canal are blown up at the moment.

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[–] corvi@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Isn’t the Panama Canal basically running out of water? They should act like they’ve been cowed, sell it to us for a ton of money, and laugh all the way to the bank.

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