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The filibuster is right there. You kept it around for a reason.
Turns out, that reason was just that democrats needed an excuse when they broke campaign promises.
The filibuster conveniently doesn't apply to budget reconciliation and appointments, the only 2 things the Republicans actually care about. They should've always pushed to get rid of it, because the Republican agenda has always been both economic, and stacking the courts in order to enable the executive to ignore Congress.
Oh, are republicans using reconciliation? Because it's my understanding that reconciliation involves a joint session, which isn't happening right now.
If needed they'll probably do that, yeah.
But they're not doing it now. Which means that democrats should be filibustering.
How? It's in the house now. The senate isn't doing anything. Typically the house comes up with a bill, the senate comes up with a slightly different bill, then in reconciliation they work out a compromise and vote on that.
Always nothing democrats can do.
There's probably stuff they could do, but not the filibuster. I mean, they could use the filibuster on every other thing in the senate, and they definitely should do that. I'm definitely not interested in making excuses for them.
They definitely do have leverage that they're not using.
There’s probably stuff they could do, but not the filibuster. I mean, they could use the filibuster on every other thing in the senate
They can use it right now.
I’m definitely not interested in making excuses for them.
So stop.
I really want an answer on this, why is all the media blaming Democrats for the shut down? Republicans have a majority and can pass it without them, how is that the Dems fault?
because all the MSM are mostly owned by conservatives thats why, additionally the gop makes great clickbait material.
They can't pass it. There are Republicans who won't vote for it either.
So blame them, not the Dems
Blame?
Fascist states should be shutdown. The federal employee unions agree btw
I believe I read that they need 60 votes in the Senate.
What a bunch of fucking losers.
The overall reporting on this right now is kind of a mess. Most other outlets are disagreeing with the article and saying they will not vote for cloture (meaning will not let it pass the filibuster). But some others are saying the opposite
In any case, we ought to call our senators and keep the pressure up for them not to let it pass cloture. Call your senator and tell them to vote no not just on the bill but no on cloture. They have been getting a flood of calls and some senators are starting to publicly say they will explicitly not vote to pass cloture. Let's make that pressure louder to make more of them to do the same
Career politicians are gonna career politic.
The Dem leadership just wants plausible deniability that they didn't "cause the government shutdown". This way, it is the Republicans who denied the path out of a government shutdown, and thus it's their fault.
Nobody will care about whose fault it is because Republican voters get their news from partisan media. If they're told it's the Democrats' fault, they'll believe it. A simpler message has a better chance of breaking through: "Republicans have a majority everywhere and still shut down the government because they can't govern."
If you get involved at all with their games, you're just starting a back and forth about specific amendments that will just make things so murky even people that follow the news won't even understand by the end.
If you are going to go with amendments, just have simple demands that are universally popular (stuff like: fire Musk, stop the tariffs, ...).
Schumer has never fought for a single thing in his entire life. Check out his wikipedia page.
afraid of the same megadonors that also fund the gop. not very hard to vote against the gop everytime, since the gop wouldve done it in reverse anyways. and thier voters arnt going to suddenly wake up and say "wait a minute, the gop isnt doing anything"
I demand Schimpfen from my Schumer!