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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Why is the article using diagonal screen size as their measurement for phone size? In that case you could have a phone the exact same size get “bigger” just because bezel sizes have shrunk over the years.

They specifically call out the iPhone SE as a “small phone” that they seem to want. But the newest iPhone, the iPhone 16 is only 6% bigger in width and height. Fractions of an inch larger. I can totally understand why somebody would want a phone with smaller overall dimensions, but why on earth would your metric for an ideal phone be a smaller screen?

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Answering single handed on me iPhone 12 mini on latest iOS 😇

It is a great small phone!

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I held on to my iPhone 4S as long as I could. Now I have a 12 "mini". I know I'm in the minority, though, because I don't spend all day staring at my phone. I do like having all the features, but I use them only occasionally--say, once a week or less. I prefer my internet use on my gaming computer with a big monitor, and a full-size keyboard.

I expect I'll end up with a huge phone for my next one, that I don't need, just to keep access to the functionality. Like everything else in life, there's always compromises to be made.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Why can't we have both? I want a bigger phone. Bigger than what I have now, and many people would consider this to be a fairly large phone.

But I don't want to stop people who want smaller phones from having those, too.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Right? Everybody has different size hands, my hands are on the larger side and these bigger phones of today are actually pretty comfortable to me

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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

people spend a third of their lives on those things. And while cumbersome, a big screen simply is better for media consumption

only way I see smaller phones make a comeback is if we change our habits or if a new technology comes along

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[–] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There is a feature called single hand mode on most keyboards. Makes it something like this. I do however agree that small phones are nice.Screenshot of smartphone keyboard in single hand mode.

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe I saw where you hear that people want small phones, they make them, and then they sell poorly. So, to the company at least, it doesn’t look like people want the smaller devices.

Now, I saw some comments in here about the smaller devices usually being less robust than their normal/pro counterparts, and that could also be a major reason small phones don’t sell.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

They make bad small phones that people don't buy because they're bad, then conclude its because people don't buy small phones.

They make phones like the palm palm, the second phone you have to pair to your other phone, for those days when the big phone is too big. Also the battery didn't even last a day. When it doesn't sell they say its because it was small, not the everything else.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People don't buy them for the price they'll buy bigger phones. That's it. That's the whole story.

They have to make the phone cost $300 less to sell in meaningful numbers. Why do that when they could just not make them at all and sell fewer models at higher prices?

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[–] engene@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

I don’t see why we don’t already have an iPod size device. I just need something for music and if a phone call happens to come in - great! It was so simple then.

[–] yarn@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yes please. I really dislike iOS, but I use the iPhone 13 Mini for work and it's the perfect form factor. I desperately want an Android phone that's the same size, but I'm rocking a Flip which is the best I can do for small form factor right now.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The iPhone 13 mini was the perfect size and if Apple would have used that as a base for their new SE instead of the shitty 16e, I would have bought it in a heartbeat. Just give me a thicc 13 mini with a good battery, camera and a new processor.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Here's what I want, roughly in order of priority:

  1. long term OS support
  2. repairable
  3. privacy friendly
  4. small

I currently have a Pixel 8:

  1. 7 years software support, maybe more
  2. 6/10 on ifixit score; not great, but better than many
  3. supports GrapheneOS
  4. on the smaller end of "normal" today

A community-supported Linux phone would be awesome, since I'd get 1 and 3 by default and 2 by convention, but they don't meet my minimum needs from a phone: reliable basic feature support. Hopefully we get there by the time my Pixel dies.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Consumers just aren’t that interested in a product that’s visibly cheaper and worse than what everyone else is carrying. And that is what a smaller phone signals.

Phones are a status purchase; they all do basically the same things, but most people gravitate towards higher end phones because they offer all the fancy features. Flagship phones are all large, so that’s what you see in the marketing. Just like you’ll never see a car company put its cheapest base model on a car catalog cover.

A smaller phone tends to cut corners; it’s not just smaller, but also functionally worse. While the price might be appealing, the potential customer also knows that using said phone will mean a worse experience, and might even get them ridiculed because they got ‘the cheap one’.

So we can absolutely go back to small phones - we just don’t want to. Smaller, cheaper, worse products just don’t appeal to a status-conscious buyer. If phone manufacturers offered the same specs at different sizes, that might change. But any savvy tech buyer knows a smaller phone is worse than the bigger one.

Back in the pre-smartphone days, size was a thing companies could compete on since customers wanted small, light, distinctive designs in premium materials. Like the Motorola Razr V3. These days, that just doesn’t work.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bigger screens mean bigger and more obtrusive ads.

I'm convinced this is 90% of the reason right here.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't think phone makers are that close to ad companies.

It's most likely the same thing as a truck- people say they don't want this insecurity driven monstrosity, but test after test, people buy the bigger one.

Edit: I mis-wrote that, my implication was that the people deciding the phone size spec are going to be doing it off hard data like what customers like to buy and what extra hardware they can fit in. I know Google owns Pixel, but the data point surrounding more ad impressions is extremely weak compared to literally any other data point regarding consumer choices

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think phone makers are that close to ad companies

Google?

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You see ads on your phone?

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