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How my Firefox became a LibreWolf

New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf

#firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic

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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Oh, I am considering moving to LibreWolf currently too

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Note that if you are concerning about security, you may want to enable Google Safe Browsing as well (I know this is from Google, but implementation from Mozilla is making sense and even Librewolf devs are considering enabling it if it wasn't for user self-compiling issues). I'm a CS student myself but I don't think I'm that savvy for checking every site I go though.

[–] mray@social.tchncs.de 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.

It is not always so easy:

https://video.1146.nohost.me/w/ij3qHTrc55t9izuk6hP7HF

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Holy crap thank you for sharing that. Spectacular. Also, the last minute of that had the kind of inspirational vibes that I last got in the 90s reading things on cult of the dead cow.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago

@mray@social.tchncs.de Thanks! Oh yes it's not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings.

Thanks for the video, I'm already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee.

He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It's not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc...I don't remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.

[–] eugen@infosec.exchange 24 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.

Great art, as always!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

From the blog post...

You won't be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you'll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you're willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.

Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.

They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.

Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.

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[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Pleb here

You are correct

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

Everything is on by default. So is actually quite easy.

It's very nice because you don't really have to worry about which add-ons you need.

It's about the most simple browser I've ever used.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs"

😆 I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world I mean I don't hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don't like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

😆 I don’t think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs.

I've never met a software developer yet who wouldn't want their program to be popular and widely used.

Also, when it comes to browsers, the name of the game is to get support from the big websites, which is done by having major/popular usage of their browser.

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[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For android, there's also fennec on fdroid

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i have ironfox for android.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Gorgeous artwork friend!

[–] darkbeth@mastodon.coffee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Excellent art, as always.

I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.

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[–] matera@mastodon.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.

Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@matera@mastodon.sdf.org Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉

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[–] technikhil@toot.cafe 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out https://zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

i also have floorp./

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[–] ErikUden@mastodon.de 4 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org yippiee

[–] simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

@protonprivacy@mastodon.social also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.

Is @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social doing the same? 🫤🤷‍♂️

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[–] tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr 4 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Excellent, as usual.

[–] vonstauf@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thanks for this post and the fun artwork, you convinced me to finally make the jump!

LibreWolf needs to adopt a Foxkeh like mascot since Mozilla refuses to do it even though it would make them so much bank and popularity. <3

[–] Gonzalo@paquita.masto.host 3 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I switched to LibreWolf two month ago and it works nicely.

[–] yalle@corneill.es 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Ce projet LibreWolf semble sympathique mais pas compatible avec firefox syncs, ce qui est sans doute logique, mais sans alternative.
Je teste également Floorp...

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

J'ai utilisé LibreWolf et il a bien fonctionné avec Firefox sync. Si je me souvenir bien, il faut activer (permettre) Firefox sync dans les options. Maintenant, j'utilise Floorp. Il, également, bien fonctionne avec Firefox sync.

(Désolé pour mon mauvais français.)


I have used LibreWolf and it works well with Firefox sync. If I am remembering correctly, it must be enabled in the options. Right now, I use Floorp. It also works well with Firefox sync.

(Sorry for my poor French.)

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[–] elgregor@social.librem.one 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I still use Firefox, but I disabled sending any data to Mozilla.

Thanks for not contributing to Chromium monopoly. :)

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[–] peterainbow@beige.party 2 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I wonder what the Linux distros that have Firefox in the default install are going to do going forward?

#linuxmint #linux

[–] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it worth running LibreWolf without fingerprinting disabled? It's kind of a dealbreaker that it doesn't save zoom options on websites. At least I could handle having to run another browser to use Netflix...

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com That's exactly where I found it educative to have to be personally facing this dilemma and having to choose.

Here I decided to allow fingerprinting, because mainly I really like when a blog or website switch to dark mode automatically. Without that, all website were in light theme, and it felt very difficult to me to browse the web like that now...

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com I mean LibreWolf recommends using CanvasBlocker in case of you turned off Resist Fingerprinting

[–] rony4102@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am going to ladybird it bro

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago

@rony4102@programming.dev Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.

[–] cyborgnekosica@socel.net 2 points 1 week ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!

[–] scaro@mamot.fr 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?

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[–] usul@piaille.fr 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org good luck getting sec patches in time

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn't just funding but how to maintain they're absolutely massive code bases.

Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.

Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.

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[–] marnic@framapiaf.org 1 points 1 week ago (6 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Merci pour la découverte.
Mais le souci sera le même que Chrome au final, dépendre de l'évolution de FF pour le code principal.

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[–] BluesHarp@musicians.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Vivaldi right now and it works great.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@BluesHarp@musicians.today But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software... This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.

[–] cameronbosch@fosstodon.org 1 points 6 days ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @BluesHarp@musicians.today Unfortunately, what fork of Chromium do you recommend then? Brave is a shady crypto project run by a less than nice person, Chrome & Edge I hope I don't have to explain, and Opera? I really hope I don't have to go any further.

Also, when Mozilla eventually goes, so does Librewolf, Waterfox, and the rest. There's no way that the Firefox forks will be able to pick up the pieces in time.

Unfortunately, I am stuck on Vivaldi because it has PWAs and isn't going to die.

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