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[–] Tgo_up@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (8 children)

This is a bad example.. If I ask a friend "is strawberry spelled with one or two r's"they would think I'm asking about the last part of the word.

The question seems to be specifically made to trip up LLMs. I've never heard anyone ask how many of a certain letter is in a word. I've heard people ask how you spell a word and if it's with one or two of a specific letter though.

If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you're going to be very unimpressed.. It's just a model to predict the next word.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you're going to be very unimpressed

Artificial sugar is still sugar.

Artificial intelligence implies there is intelligence in some shape or form.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Artificial sugar is still sugar.

Because it contains sucrose, fructose or glucose? Because it metabolises the same and matches the glycemic index of sugar?

Because those are all wrong. What's your criteria?

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's like someone who has no formal education but has a high level of confidence and eavesdrops on a lot of random conversations.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I’ve been avoiding this question up until now, but here goes:

Hey Siri …

  • how many r’s in strawberry? 0
  • how many letter r’s in the word strawberry? 10
  • count the letters in strawberry. How many are r’s? ChatGPT …..2
[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is literally just a tokenization artifact. If I asked you how many r’s are in /0x5273/0x7183 you’d be confused too.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

Sure, but I definitely wouldn’t confidently answer “two”.

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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I asked mistral/brave AI and got this response:

How Many Rs in Strawberry

The word "strawberry" contains three "r"s. This simple question has highlighted a limitation in large language models (LLMs), such as GPT-4 and Claude, which often incorrectly count the number of "r"s as two. The error stems from the way these models process text through a process called tokenization, where text is broken down into smaller units called tokens. These tokens do not always correspond directly to individual letters, leading to errors in counting specific letters within words.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I mean, that's how I would think about it...

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