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Not everyone thinks this, but I know an extreme right-winger who thinks this. He is also a conspiracy theorist who thinks non-white people are out to get white people so, yeah, odd.

Not every immigrant is illegal or bad. I know a girl who didn't speak English for 3 years when her family legally immigrated, so of course she's been told this.

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[–] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

That's just bad logic saying that all Americans all are immigrants. It implies that land is bound by blood and every modern immigrant everwhere would never be integrated into society, since they weren't the original people there. Every society that has migrated would also receive this immigrant label, like the Hungarians and Bulgarians. There comes a point where the people who conquer lands become the people living there and not just immigrants.

These kinds of bad gotchas aren't proving anything unless you seriously think they are only going for immigrants. They are racists. They use the term immigrant to refer to non-white people.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Because some people were never taught critical thinking skills

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

There was a 19th century political party that rose in opposition to the arrival of Irish Catholic immigrants. They had the audacity to call themselves the Native American Party. Also, known as the Know Nothings. They're the gang that Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) leads in Gangs of New York.

[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

I dont think they assume all immigrants are illegal. They talk about illegal immigrants. As in those that entered clandestinely without visa or entering permit or those that have their visa / permit expired. Correct me if im wrong.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

No it's the brown ones. They wouldn't look twice at a pale person like Musk.

[–] voytek709@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Makes sense, I’m talking about the RADICAL anti-immigration.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

White conspiracy theorists know they stole this land and are terrified that what goes around, comes around.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

See, back then, there used to be this thing called 'an education' that every functioning member of society was expected to have. Basic reasoning skills, the ability to reason and all that - it was meant to separate sapient species from animals and solve problems by means of discourse, debate and, worked well for a while. Then this group started shouting really loud, and the other group thought not to engage in uncivilised behaviour, hoping good sense would prevail and restrain what was largely seen as an anomaly. Only the shouting didn't end. Instead it turned to screaming, then hollering, and started to drown out reason and logic and everything we had developed as a society up til that point. And it worked, so more people started screaming their basal instincts, until the voice of reason was eventually drowned out, then silenced. And here we are today.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's inherent feature of human reasoning across the board. Everyone does broad generalizations about other people based on more or less unrelated information about them. Just yesterday someone here was getting upvoted for implying people driving lifted trucks are racists. It's the same logic at work there. It's othering. Us vs. them and so on. It may have been useful when we still lived in tribes but doesn't quite work with how society is today.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like America is like this especially. I've seen them assume too many things about me because of single beliefs I held

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

US America for sure, yes.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

It's their fee fees, stoked by conservative media.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

It's called manifest destiny and it's part of the propaganda machine that's been worked on us since before all of us were born.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Because they write their narrative, or subscribe to one where they are the defenders, not the peoples who were dominated a couple of centuries ago.

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

Social media induced psychosis

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