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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In all seriousness, I genuinely feel like the demographics of those making over 250K/year outside of Silicon Valley (proton is from Switzerland which is a center-right country), and outside of the arts industries, is probably bare minimum of lib-center, and probably most likely to be at least fiscally conservative, if not socially as well. Those kind of people are more concerned with maintaining their financial position than the issues plaguing the income classes that the individual has graduated out of.

I don’t think you’re going to find many CEOs that aren’t at least a little right of center or self serving in their business interests.

Getting to the top 1% income bracket is a lot easier than maintaining that financial position.

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff

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[–] transitinoir@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

Stop switching to every new "cool" and "encrypted" service every time the previous one disappointed you a little bit. This is not helpful neither for your time, nor for privacy community overall. We should lean on most developed and best platforms we have right now (Proton, Signal etc.) and get everyone to switch. Unless we know we have market dominance, dispersing our efforts is futile.

And yep, answering your question, Tuta Mail is fine

[–] guismo@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I've been using Runbox for many years and it's weird i don't see recommendations.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (15 children)

So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?

Seriously? You're going to question people on loyalty when they find out the person in charge of not selling their data to the highest bidder is an oligarch wanna-be?

Hell yes. If you give me red flags in how a company I need to ultimately trust is run/staffed, I will find a better solution.

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

is tuta the new pick for custom domain email?

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Whatever you choose, remember that ease of migration is important. So for email buy your own domain name and use a service like mailbox.org that allows custom domains and full IMAP access.

[–] Snothvalpen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

As far as I can tell from posteo's own FAQ site, they do not allow custom domains. I'd really consider swithcing to them otherwise. Do you use posteo?

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I literally just asked their support about this last year and they confirmed they intentionally don't offer this option.

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

been using https://migadu.com/ for a few months now and its pretty great

[–] bobbyfiend@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have been on Opalstack since they started. I like them. I pay for hosting monthly. I've self-hosted several apps there (or tried to, sometimes; I couldn't make everything work all the time). Nextcloud is dodgy; I like it, but it's a pain in the ass for someone like me (not a dev, not a coder) to deal with the almost inevitable problems every 2 or 3 times I need to upgrade. And I've never been able to get an office suite working well. Much of this could be because I'm trying to run NC on shared hosting; even opalstack's support doesn't fix all of that.

Email: opalstack has email. I use it. I don't actually know what service it is, but I have three or four mailboxes linked to a couple of domain names I own, and several hundred email addresses* Thunderbird does great with IMAP on my laptop, desktop, and phone, with opalstack as the server.

*lots of emails because when I sign up for something I create a new email address just in case they sell my stuff and I start to get spam.

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[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

disroot

depending on your politics, autistici

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